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To: Clemenza; rmlew
These people are selfish beyond comprehension. When they grow old I suppose they will expect to have the taxpaying progeny of others subsidize their expensive medical bills and other expenses that will accrue due to their old age. Do these people think the welfare state is eternal?

Before the advent of the welfare state your children were your insurance policy who would take care of you in your old age. It is also the imperative way in which those cultures that have survived and expanded were able to procreate and pass on their legacy.

Islam is today the largest growing religion by way of the womb. Look at any region where Muslims have settled and they took over by out-reproducing the locals (kosovo, Bethlehem come to mind as more recent examples). The muslims discovered long ago, that the womb is the true weapon of mass destruction. There is a reason why women in Islam are kept suppressed and practically slaves, they have only one function in the islamic male dominated world, and that is to bear more muslims.

As far as my being childless, it is not by choice, but rather by circumstance, as it requires a willing partner to perpetuate the species etc.. Conditions which have never occurred in my particular case and as I grow older probably never will.

If there is a silver lining in all this, it is the fact that most of these couples who are childless, are self centered leftist PC types. The devout fortunately are having children at a very high rate. Among the Hasidim and fundamentalist Christians as well as Catholic Mexicans the rate is well high enough. Unfortunately we have muslims amongst us, who though small in number today because of their reproductive rate will be a substantial portion of the population by the end of the century. Given enough time, they will be the majority here.



9 posted on 10/27/2005 10:46:48 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
The devout fortunately are having children at a very high rate.

They seem to be having abortions at a very high rate also:


19 posted on 10/28/2005 7:50:36 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Cacique
These people are selfish beyond comprehension.

In this one statement you have summed up all of the moral ills of our nation. We were once taught family responsibilities in our homes, civic responsibilities in our schools, and Kingdom responsibilities in our churches. And in all three were we taught moral responsibilities.

It seems as though we have been cursed with affluence. With this affluence has come greed and with the greed has come selfishness. All the prosperous nations of the world are turning away from God and toward the individual.

Maybe it is time for us to pray to God, asking that he would release us from this curse of affluence. That we might turn from mammon and again turn to Him.

21 posted on 10/28/2005 8:05:27 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Cacique
When they grow old I suppose they will expect to have the taxpaying progeny of others subsidize their expensive medical bills

Or maybe they'll save for their own expenses. And you ignore the taxes they're paying to support other people's children.

Before the advent of the welfare state your children were your insurance policy who would take care of you in your old age.

That's just silly. If you don't have kids and invest the money that you would have spent raising them, you'll come out with more than enough to support yourself.

37 posted on 10/28/2005 9:51:35 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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