Posted on 10/24/2005 8:02:08 PM PDT by NYer
I received anointing when I was less than 2 years old, (as well as having many masses said for me and a whole gaggle of nuns praying for me). I drank a glass of turpentine, went into convulsions lost consciousness. I recovered, no permanent damage, although some may disagree whether or not there was any brain damage. ;-)
Fine, bigotry is out, then.
Offensive is in. I know the Truth. I hope that you will someday. Until that time, I will pray for all our separated Brethren.
I was about to post that verse. Thanks for doing it for us!
>>I do want to point out to you that this is a religion forum, not a Catholic forum. You have criticized Bellflower for not seeing him on Jewish sites, but how do you know that he doesn't post the same there? I would suggest a word of caution on the use of the term bigotry. We are all to quick to use terms like this.May God bless you.<<
I know that these posters do not go to the Jewish threads because I am on three of their ping lists.
I have no caution when it comes to people "ministering" on Catholic threads. Sorry my friend, we have had this going on for too long. It is in poor taste and crass. When one demands attention by coming onto a thread that is informative for Catholics to give us the opposite view, bigotry is the word I see.
If anyone would like to advance our common struggle against secular humanism, why would one insult a groups beliefs? It is not the way to win hearts.
I am married to a Presbyterian who comes from a Fundamentalist family. They have more decorum than the people that "minister" on the Catholic threads.
We'll all be there for a while.
"I drank a glass of turpentine, went into convulsions lost consciousness. I recovered, no permanent damage, although some may disagree whether or not there was any brain damage. ;-)"
Some say I drink turpentine every time I open a bottle of Retsina! Never had the convulsions, but I suspect I may have "fallen asleep" a few times in my youthful exuberance for the stuff! As for my experiences, well there has never been any doubt about the brain damage part! :)
YOU my FRiend are a uniter and not a divider.
I stand with all Protestants, Jews and Catholics who fight against secularism. We all growl like tigers when the world is shoved on us.
I would never go onto a Jewish or Protestant thread and tell them that I feel they are wrong. WHO am I?
God Bless You!
A good number of the pastors I know are terrible fundraisers. Most are great homilists and spiritual advisors, but have no clue on how to organize a bake sale.
This has always been the case!
Unbelievable story.
I agree. I think many don''t particularly like that part of the job, which would generally be better done by a layperson with more practical experience in any case. However, the post VatII Church seems to expect them to do this while the laypeople to do the jobs formerly done by the priests.
Oddly enough, I do remember, way back when at the dawn of VatII, that there was talk of making the laity more responsible for the nuts and bolts of plant maintenance, etc. and freeing the priests to devote more time to spiritual tasks in growing parishes. Strange that it turned out almost the opposite.
That's interesting.
In some parishes, there are finance committees that really do run things. When Father keeps his mitts off, things usually end up alright. It's when they start meddling...I know too much about a few parishes.
The other thing that is a problem is that you get volunteers from all over and there are some that drive away others, sometimes very good ones. It's a pitfall.
*** Let him bring in the priests of the church and let them pray over him...***
***The offices of "bishop, priest (presbyter) and deacon..." ***
Both of you are translation Presbuteros (elder) as priest. Why is that?
Is not the Greek word for priest "Hiereus"?
*** I suspect that many of us are going to be surprised to see who is walking the streets of the New Jerusalem.***
Indeed.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Not necessarily. "Hiereus" is a generic word for "religious leader," coming from the root word "hier," meaning "holy."
Etymologically, the English word "priest" (which, of course, originally described Catholic clergy) comes from "presbyter". "Bishop" comes from /episcopos/, "overseer". The overseers and elders described in the NT are bishops and priests, respectively.
Catholics often carry cards in their wallets, or wear medals around their necks, that contain the above words (or simply, "I'm Catholic; call a priest"), sometimes with the priest's phone number/pager number. These cards are meant to help ensure that in an emergency, a doctor, nurse, EMT, policeman, etc., will call a priest to administer Unction to the Catholic in need. Make sure that family members, even non-Catholic ones, are aware of your desire for Unction if you are facing death, and have your priest's phone number/pager number someplace where they'll be able to locate it easily.
You will be surprised to find that I agree with you. Bellflower's post was in bad taste but I still don't see bigotry. Lets agree to disagree on that. We don't win hearts that way as you say. Blessings
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