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To: Teófilo

Simple question:

Considering that the Council of Nicea was convened by the Emperor, and that the decisions of the council were given the full weight of Roman law, wouldn't the official version be in Latin (without the filioque) rather than Greek? I'm sure the discussions were conducted in Greek, but the final document would have to have been put in Latin to be added to the code of Roman law.

The official proceedings and records of the Roman Empire were in Latin until 565, when Justinian II (son of the Great) changed it to Greek.


2 posted on 10/10/2005 9:27:58 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: bobjam
Simple question: Considering that the Council of Nicea was convened by the Emperor, and that the decisions of the council were given the full weight of Roman law, wouldn't the official version be in Latin (without the filioque) rather than Greek? I'm sure the discussions were conducted in Greek, but the final document would have to have been put in Latin to be added to the code of Roman law.

The official proceedings and records of the Roman Empire were in Latin until 565, when Justinian II (son of the Great) changed it to Greek.

A "Simple Question?" Friend, you can write a thesis out of that...(LOL).

I have no idea how to answer that, not versed as I am on notarial practices in 4th century Rome. [sarcasm-not-aimed-at-you]Ask Dan Brown. He seems to be an "expert" in the period.[/sarcasm-not-aimed-at-you]

Seriously, an excellent question well beyond my ken.

-Theo

9 posted on 10/10/2005 1:34:44 PM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org)
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To: bobjam

[quote]Considering that the Council of Nicea was convened by the Emperor, and that the decisions of the council were given the full weight of Roman law, wouldn't the official version be in Latin (without the filioque) rather than Greek? [quote]

Hi bobjam,

The original creed was written in Greek, the language of the eastern Roman Empire where both councils were seated; which is also why the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Most laws and diplomacy in the Empire were written in both Greek and Latin long before Justinian II.

[quote]The official proceedings and records of the Roman Empire were in Latin until 565, when Justinian II (son of the Great) changed it to Greek.[quote]

The first seven Ecumenical Councils were all conducted in Greek. The First Council of Nicaea, which took place in 323AD, had out of the hundred participating bishops only five who were Latin Bishops. The majority were Eastern Bishops.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds1.v.i.html

Both the Western Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches recognize the first seven councils in the early years of the church, but Catholics also recognize fourteen councils called in later years by the Pope of the West, while the Eastern Orthodox churches, who do not recognize the authority of the Pope, do not recognize these later seven councils.





11 posted on 10/11/2005 6:04:41 PM PDT by apro
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To: bobjam

[quote]Considering that the Council of Nicea was convened by the Emperor, and that the decisions of the council were given the full weight of Roman law, wouldn't the official version be in Latin (without the filioque) rather than Greek? [quote]

Hi bobjam,

The original creed was written in Greek, the language of the eastern Roman Empire where both councils were seated; which is also why the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Most laws and diplomacy in the Empire were written in both Greek and Latin long before Justinian II.

[quote]The official proceedings and records of the Roman Empire were in Latin until 565, when Justinian II (son of the Great) changed it to Greek.[quote]

The first seven Ecumenical Councils were all conducted in Greek. The First Council of Nicaea, which took place in 323AD, had out of the hundred participating bishops only five who were Latin Bishops. The majority were Eastern Bishops.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds1.v.i.html

Both the Western Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches recognize the first seven councils in the early years of the church, but Catholics also recognize fourteen councils called in later years by the Pope of the West, while the Eastern Orthodox churches, who do not recognize the authority of the Pope, do not recognize these later seven councils.





12 posted on 10/11/2005 6:05:08 PM PDT by apro
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