Posted on 10/10/2005 5:52:11 AM PDT by NYer
p>OTTAWA, October 7, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) The October 2005 issue of Toronto based Catholic Insight magazine contains a detailed report on two recent Catholic womens ordination conferences. The insider account reveals that the internationally publicized ordination events were more a front for a wider agenda to grab power and insert acceptance of homosexuality, abortion and a New Age type of anti-Christian religion into Catholic institutions.
The Catholic Insight article, The ordination of womenpriests by Donna O'Conner-Hunnisett, especially relates the content of various talks given by speakers at the second Womens Ordination Conference which took place at Ottawas Carleton University. The conference concluded with the so-called ordination of four priestesses and five deaconesses on the St. Lawrence River which was heavily reported by the world media. What was excluded from almost all reports was the bizarre, militant, anti-Christian background to the movement as revealed at the Ottawa conference and a previous, similar conference in Dublin in 2001.
O'Conner-Hunnisett writes that she was greeted at the registration desk by two women who identified themselves as lesbian, pro-choice Catholics, and said they would have to consult Joanna Manning (a well known lesbian, pro-abortion activist) about letting her into the conference.
Some of the main speakers were noted to be Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza, who writes extensively on feminist biblical interpretation and Rosemary Radford Ruether, whose writings include Integrating Ecofeminism and Goddesses and the Divine Feminine. Ruether discussed her valued position on the board of Catholics for a Free Choice.
There was also Mary Hunt, a feminist theologian, co-founder of the Womens Alliance for Theology, Ethics and Ritual, USA, and a lesbian.
Joanna Mannings talk was titled Erotic Justice: Commitment to Personal and Global Transformation. O'Conner-Hunnisett writes that Mannings talk was full of liberal, sexual, and New-Age concepts. Trinity is mother, Lord within us; and the best experience of God is found in mutual sexual relationships. Christian teaching is frozen into frigidity by fear of sex. We need gays and lesbians it is a unique way, the creative energy of God.
The writer says there were many more delegates in Ottawa, both lay and religious, who openly identified themselves as gay and lesbian. The topic of diverse and free sexual lifestyles permeated most aspects of the conference, and formed part of their vision of a new all-inclusive Catholic Church, which would also allow for abortion, contraception and a non-celibate women priesthood.
See the full Catholic Insight article at
http://catholicinsight.com/online/feminism/article...
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some very interesting reading there, had to save it so I can refer back to it from time-to-time. thanks!
Is it too late for the Church to trademark "Catholic" so that it doesn't get used by organizations that obviously aren't?
If I wanted to worship the earth goddess and the horned god, I would have become wiccan. If I wanted to put self at the center of the universe, I would have embraced various other new age practices. In my searching for truth, I investigated a lot of things in the pagan, buddhist and philosophical traditions.
Instead, as I went on in my spiritual journey, it became clear to me that I wanted to put Jesus and his passion at the center of my life, so I became a Catholic instead.
And we see how hard the devil is working against the church, how he has already won in a number of denominations that should have known better, but were led by people who didn't believe in the truth of Jesus as the Man God.
This story is a sad thing to see, but follows the same pattern that has been used against other churches. Makes me want to ponder again the story of the fall...and the wonder of the Blessed Mother's response instead.
The big difference is that after 40+ years of trying to uproot Catholic doctrine, they are still outside, knocking on the door and quite frustrated. The Catholic Church remains on course, with B16 at the helm .... thanks in great part to the workings of the Holy Spirit and the intervention of our Blessed Mother.
I posted this to another thread but it is worth repeating here. At Fatima, an angel appeared to the 3 children. He said:
Do not be afraid. I am the angel of peace. Pray with me.
He knelt, bending his forehead to the ground. With a supernatural impulse we did the same, repeating the words we heard him say:
My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love You. I ask pardon for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not hope, and do not love You.
After repeating this prayer three times the angel rose and said to us:
Pray in this way. The hearts of Jesus and Mary are ready to listen to you.
And he disappeared. He left us in an atmosphere of the supernatural that was so intense we were for a long time unaware of our own existence. The presence of God was so powerful and intimate that even among ourselves we could not speak.
Although the angels, too, can appear in more mundane fashion, it must have suited the divine purposes to reveal to the children something of the holiness of God. Lucia tells us of the lingering effect it had on them.
His words sank so deeply into our minds that we never forgot them, and ever after we used to spend long periods on our knees repeating them, sometimes until we fell down exhausted.
Fr. Corapi, in his videotaped presentation on Fatima, reminds the listeners of the need to do penance for the unrepentant sinners. "Offer it up!" That could be anything, no matter how small, during the course of the day.
VCII relaxed the rules so much that many catholics have forgotten the value of personal sacrifice in their lives. Pray for these foolish women.
This is the truth.
And for me, my special devotion is to the Divine Mercy...For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world seems to be a prayer worth praying constantly for this poor sad world.
"The big difference is that after 40+ years of trying to uproot Catholic doctrine, they are still outside, knocking on the door and quite frustrated."
Really? How many of these people, who apparently claim to be Roman Catholics, have been publicly condemned and excommunicated? Does the Latin Church tolerate them and the scandal they cause because it "doesn't know what's in their hearts"? I'll bet none, or next to none, of these heretics are in the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches.
Reading that made my hair stand up. Awesome.
Me too! As you know .... the Divine Mercy chaplet ends with the Trisagion ....
Holy God
Holy Mighty One
Holy Immortal One
Have mercy on us!
I love that prayer, which I learned from the chaplet. Well, apparently it is a very ancient prayer from the East. In the Maronite Church, it is called the 'Qadeeshat'. After the priest has incensed the Sanctuary and the church, we all stand, and face East to the Tabernacle. Father then chants the 'Qadeeshat' 3 times in Syriac.
Qadeeshat Aloho
Qadeeshat Hyeltono
Qadeeshat Lomoyouto
To which the congregation chants - Itraham Alein - Have mercy on us.
This prayer never made it to the west until our Lord gave it St. Faustina. It must be so pleasing to Him!
It made it into the Improperia. There's an article on it in the Catholic Encyclopedia.
It made it into the Improperia.
.... sung during the Improperia, or "Reproaches" at the ceremony of the Adoration of the Cross, on Good Friday. Amazing! I never heard it, pre or post VCII.
"The fact that the hymn was one of the exclamations of the Fathers at the Council of Chalcedon (451), and that not only is it common to all the Greek Oriental liturgies, but was used also in the Gallican Liturgy [St. Germanus of Paris, (d. 576), referring to it as being sung both in Greek and in Latin: "Incipiente præsule ecclesia Ajus (that is, Agios) psallit, dicens latinum cum græco", as also previously in Greek alone, before the Prophetia] suggests from such a widespread and apparently common use the conclusion that the hymn is extremely ancient, perhaps of apostolic origin."
Watching a priest bow profoundly towards our Lord, present in the Tabernacle, as he chants this hymn, is enough to move even the most stoic person to tears.
I'm not Christian (I'm a Noachide), but I really respect the Catholic Church and the Pope for not bending to the whims of public opinion and dissolution. I like the fact that this bulwark of sacredness exists.
There's a wonderful T. Vittoria setting in the old St. Gregory Hymnal (which our choir bought). You can't open that book without finding richness. It has full settings of all the Graduale texts for Holy Week and Easter - all the music for 40 Hours' Adoration - even the appropriate music for confirmation (including Sacerdos et Pontifex and the Confirma hoc Deus, with which we amazed the new Archbishop when he came to confirm the kids.)
Our new choirmaster ROCKS!
Far too many seem to find that religion is the perfect cloak for doing whatever they want to do.
Ain't it the truth!
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