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Question Raised on Communion and Abortion
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| 10.04.05
Posted on 10/06/2005 5:06:11 PM PDT by Coleus
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:06:14 PM PDT
by
Coleus
To: Coleus
"No. 73 of the "instrumentum laboris," or working document, warns that "[s]uch attitudes lead to, among other things, a crisis in the meaning of belonging to the Church and in a clouding of the distinction between venial and mortal sin."
As an Orthodox Christian, I can ascribe 100% to His Eminence's concern about a crisis in the meaning of belonging to the Church, but to go on to make the legalistic distinction between moratl and venial sins merely, in my opinion, compounds the problem presented.
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:10:59 PM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: Coleus
**discuss whether voters who support pro-abortion candidates should be receiving Communion.**
Getting down to the voters!! This is good!
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:14:50 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:16:10 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Salvation
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:18:17 PM PDT
by
fatima
(Have a beer-It is good for everything.Beer Mod. freepathon.)
To: Coleus; Salvation
It's a good thing to put up for church discussion. I think we know where the Pope stands on this!
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT
by
pissant
To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:24:50 PM PDT
by
Coleus
(I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
To: Salvation
Thanks for ping. Re:
"Getting down to the voters!! This is good!".
The only thing that bothers me is that this should be across the board. This means school teachers, pundits, administrators etc. It shouldn't sound just political.
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:28:40 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
To: Coleus
Wish they would speak English.
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:35:23 PM PDT
by
fatima
(Have a beer-It is good for everything.Beer Mod. freepathon.)
To: ex-snook
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posted on
10/06/2005 5:37:11 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Salvation
Archbishop Levada suggested that the synod, in its small-group discussions, debate the problem of Catholics "who do not understand why it might be a sin to support a political candidate who is openly in favor of abortion or other serious acts against life. There should be no debate on this, just openly tell your sheep not to support such a candidate. People do not understand because they hear NOTHING from their bishops and in some cases their parish priest. I often feel the bishops do not say anything because they are more concerned about offending someone.
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posted on
10/06/2005 7:47:52 PM PDT
by
Gerish
(Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
To: Gerish
"I often feel the bishops do not say anything because they are more concerned about offending someone"
Hey, if they start telling their parishoners not to vote for pro-aborts, they won't get invited to all those open-buffet, open-bar parties.
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posted on
10/06/2005 8:14:14 PM PDT
by
dsc
To: dsc
When are we going to get back to the fact that church is not a social club, but a life changing decision? And how about "you follow the rules or you don't play the game."
People want to know that someone is in control and command. It's time the church stepped up to the plate on this one and let people know the rules will be enforced.
To: Salvation
As each day goes by I am heartened a little more.
8mm
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posted on
10/07/2005 4:50:40 AM PDT
by
8mmMauser
(Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
To: Coleus
This would have to be something the communicants decided for themselves, otherwise, how would priests or Extraordinary Ministers giving Communion know? It is one thing to refuse Communion to a politician who is public about his or her support for abortion. Their support is known by church-goers, and to see someone like that marching up the Communion line is a cause for scandal and confusion, because it makes others think that it must be ok to receive Communion and be pro-abortion.
Sounds like there needs to be some serious sermonizing on the matter before such a decision could be enforced. People need to decide in their hearts what they should do. If they are pro-abortion, and decide to continue receiving, they need to know what they are doing to their own souls in the process.
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posted on
10/07/2005 5:52:12 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: Gerish
We actually had people walk out during a homily by a transitional Deacon before the 2004 elections. The Deacon basically said that as Catholics we cannot support pro-abortion politicians, regardless of our party affiliation or personal preference. I know Abp. Raymond Burke would've approved.
To: Gerish
I often feel the bishops do not say anything because they are more concerned about offending someone.
&&
Amen! When was the last time you heard a homily that condemned abortion? I don't think I have heard one in 20 years.
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posted on
10/07/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
To: OriginalChristian
They walked away from Jesus when he said "hard things."
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posted on
10/07/2005 11:30:24 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: Bigg Red
When required to talk about abortion, my priest always lumps in capital punishment and war. The whole seamless garment thing.
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posted on
10/07/2005 11:32:22 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: Bigg Red
When required to talk about abortion, my priest always lumps in capital punishment and war. The whole seamless garment thing.
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posted on
10/07/2005 11:32:26 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
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