--- At an October 4 press conference in Rome, the dissident group called for reconsideration of the key Catholic doctrine on the transubstantiation, an end to the "hierarchical monopoly" on the sacraments, and approval of shared communion with other Christian denominations.---
Just your basic road to ecumenical ruin.
And their thoughts about ecumenical unity with the Orthodox Churches concerning this would be...?
...as tending to make an "idol" of the Blessed Sacrament.
Our Lord is an "idol"???
Specifically, the dissident group called for abandoning the notion that the Eucharist is a sacrifice,...
And later,
The group also denounced the exclusion of women from the Catholic priesthood,...
If we are to abandon the fact that the Eucharist is a sacrifice, why would we need Priests?
After the election of Pope Benedict XVI, We Are Church announced that it was seeking a meeting with the new Pontiff, and hoping to being an "open and constructive dialogue."
"Open"? Well, I suppose he could always use a good laugh. I don't think "constructive" would be possible though...
Why does every off-the-wall small group like this one get so much coverage?
Did anyone really believe that their commitment to women's ordination arose from a love of the Holy Sacrifice of the altar?
"What knaves."
You are nice. I'm trying to curb my tongue so as not to offend Charity.
But, I'm thinking........and I guess that will mean a stint in confession....
Time for Benedict XVI and those in the hierarchy that support him to start wielding a very, very large hickory switch and start some serious excommunications. These "dissident" groups have poisoned things for too long, and it is time to dismiss them like the serpents that they are!
Poor old Vatican II gets the shaft again. To cite VII as the underpinning of heresy is willful ignorance.
These people are not Catholic and the article is dishonest in characterizing them as such. I would suggest they go all the way and dump their alternate hierarchy theory like my ancestors the Anabaptists. No pastors, no sacraments. Just the congregation and Scripture. If the sacraments aren't real they must be play-acting. Who needs that?
These people have already abandoned the idea that the Eucharist is a sacrifice and they have full philosophical and theological freedom, as far as I can see. They're at liberty to believe whatever they want regarding the Eucharist.
Where's the problem here?
In this day and age, when there is in most places full civil freedom of religion, this kind of demand that the Church must change her beliefs to suit dissenters has absolutely no place. If these people want to be Protestants and have a Protestant understanding of the Eucharist, they can go be Protestants! Nobody forces them to remain Catholic. Dissenters are basically totalitarian thugs who don't believe in freedom of religion and want to force everyone to believe what they believe.
The following organizations claim to be Catholic but instead promote opinions which dissent from Church teachings.
CATHOLIC DISSENTING ORGANIZATIONS
At least Luther had the decency to actually leave the Church when he wanted to start a new religion.
. . . but they're clearly headed that way anyhow.
There is full freedom to do so. Nobody is stopping you from forming the "Church of random theological interpretation".
It's just satanic. It's as simple as that.
Congrats, you're now Protestants.
"We Are Church argued that the dogma of the transubstantiation-- the teaching that the bread and wine at Mass are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ-- is unacceptable to Protestants..."
Too bad. Let them swallow their pride and accept the teachings of the Chruch which Christ Himself established.
"The group also denounced the exclusion of women from the Catholic priesthood, the bar on Communion for those who are divorced and remarried, and "monopoly" claimed by priests as sacramental ministers."
Wait a sec, if they just want it to be crackers and grape juice, then why do they care if they can't take part?
"Leaders of the group say that they have not had a response to the request for a meeting."
Keep waiting... *chuckle*
"We Are Church, founded in Austria in 1995, emerged as an international movement the following year, with liberal Catholics from 20 different countries meeting in Rome to form a united front for "the reform of the Catholic Church on the basis of Vatican II."
That is what Benedict XVI is doing. Implementing Vatican II the way it was supposed to be done. Not the way these wingnuts want it implemented.
They should just go to a Protestant church if that's what they believe.
These are the same morons who were out and about condemning Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ". Why? Well, the so-called anti-Semitism charge was a smokescreen for the their real issue with the movie...it focused clearly in on the SACRIFICE of Christ, and hence, on the very essence of the Mass. For some reason, Christ's Sacrifice and Act of Redemption offends them.
At least "We are Church" actually has the forthrightness to state exactly what they believe about the Mass and the Real Presence. Now, if only they take it one step more and logically start their own church (which they have already done de facto).
"Specifically, the dissident group called for abandoning the notion that the Eucharist is a sacrifice, and instead saying that the mass is "in memory of the entire life of Jesus." The group called for "full freedom of philosophical and theological interpretation of that mystery."
Yeah. That's going to happen anytime soon. Abandon one of the chief tenets of Catholicism. This is sheer unbridled, arrogance.
What a colossal ignorance of Catholic theology.
This article is from The Onion, right?