Posted on 10/04/2005 10:01:13 PM PDT by jec1ny
Abandon Eucharistic doctrine, dissidents urge Synod
'We Are Church' dissidents claim Catholic teachings open up for question Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - The international dissident movement "We Are Church" is issuing an appeal to the Catholic bishops, gathered in Rome for the Synod, to confront the "real" problems relating to the Eucharist.
At an October 4 press conference in Rome, the dissident group called for reconsideration of the key Catholic doctrine on the transubstantiation, an end to the "hierarchical monopoly" on the sacraments, and approval of shared communion with other Christian denominations.
This is the 8th in a series of CWN news stories on the October 2005 meeting of the Synod of Bishops. Three leaders of the international movement-- Martha Heizer of Austria, Gigi De Paoli of Italy, and Norbert Scholl of Germany-- said that the Synod was likely to prove a "missed opportunity" because the bishops begin their deliberations on the basis of a working document that affirms Catholic dogmatic teachings on the Eucharist. We Are Church argued that all such teachings should be open to question.
Specifically, the dissident group called for abandoning the notion that the Eucharist is a sacrifice, and instead saying that the mass is "in memory of the entire life of Jesus." The group called for "full freedom of philosophical and theological interpretation of that mystery."
We Are Church argued that the dogma of the transubstantiation-- the teaching that the bread and wine at Mass are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ-- is unacceptable to Protestants, and thus impedes ecumenical unity. The group decried traditional forms of Catholic piety, such as Eucharistic adoration and processions, as tending to make an "idol" of the Blessed Sacrament.
The group also denounced the exclusion of women from the Catholic priesthood, the bar on Communion for those who are divorced and remarried, and "monopoly" claimed by priests as sacramental ministers.
During the last general assembly of the Synod of Bishops, in October 2001, We Are Church organized a 4-day "counter-synod" in Rome. The event, which drew about 30 participants, was styled as a "parallel synod of the People of God," with speakers demanding a more democratic Church. The "counter-synod" concluded that bishops should be elected, and all believers-- male or female, clerics and laity-- should be eligible.
After the election of Pope Benedict XVI, We Are Church announced that it was seeking a meeting with the new Pontiff, and hoping to being an "open and constructive dialogue." Christian Weisner, the president of the dissident group, said that he hoped the new Pope would prove "less rigid" than he had been as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Leaders of the group say that they have not had a response to the request for a meeting.
We Are Church, founded in Austria in 1995, emerged as an international movement the following year, with liberal Catholics from 20 different countries meeting in Rome to form a united front for "the reform of the Catholic Church on the basis of Vatican II."
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At least Luther had the decency to actually leave the Church when he wanted to start a new religion.
. . . but they're clearly headed that way anyhow.
There is full freedom to do so. Nobody is stopping you from forming the "Church of random theological interpretation".
And if you have to go back to 1415 to find something to get mad about, you might want to find another hobby.
It's just satanic. It's as simple as that.
Congrats, you're now Protestants.
"We Are Church argued that the dogma of the transubstantiation-- the teaching that the bread and wine at Mass are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ-- is unacceptable to Protestants..."
Too bad. Let them swallow their pride and accept the teachings of the Chruch which Christ Himself established.
"The group also denounced the exclusion of women from the Catholic priesthood, the bar on Communion for those who are divorced and remarried, and "monopoly" claimed by priests as sacramental ministers."
Wait a sec, if they just want it to be crackers and grape juice, then why do they care if they can't take part?
"Leaders of the group say that they have not had a response to the request for a meeting."
Keep waiting... *chuckle*
"We Are Church, founded in Austria in 1995, emerged as an international movement the following year, with liberal Catholics from 20 different countries meeting in Rome to form a united front for "the reform of the Catholic Church on the basis of Vatican II."
That is what Benedict XVI is doing. Implementing Vatican II the way it was supposed to be done. Not the way these wingnuts want it implemented.
About the same time that the protestant church stopped the practice of hanging, drawing, and quartering.
They should just go to a Protestant church if that's what they believe.
Grand jury findings - Philadelphia cardinals 'excused and enabled abuse, covered up crimes'
These are the same morons who were out and about condemning Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ". Why? Well, the so-called anti-Semitism charge was a smokescreen for the their real issue with the movie...it focused clearly in on the SACRIFICE of Christ, and hence, on the very essence of the Mass. For some reason, Christ's Sacrifice and Act of Redemption offends them.
At least "We are Church" actually has the forthrightness to state exactly what they believe about the Mass and the Real Presence. Now, if only they take it one step more and logically start their own church (which they have already done de facto).
"Specifically, the dissident group called for abandoning the notion that the Eucharist is a sacrifice, and instead saying that the mass is "in memory of the entire life of Jesus." The group called for "full freedom of philosophical and theological interpretation of that mystery."
Yeah. That's going to happen anytime soon. Abandon one of the chief tenets of Catholicism. This is sheer unbridled, arrogance.
What a colossal ignorance of Catholic theology.
We are Excommunicated....
This should be done and it should be done publicly!!!!!!!!
You know, I'd be tempted to tell them to go to hell . . .Inclusivity
. . . but they're clearly headed that way anyhow.
This article is from The Onion, right?
Well, gee, if these guys say so, we should abandon 2000 years of catholic teaching.
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