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...Some have said clergy are considering staging a strike on a Sunday, to show how critical gay priests are to serving the church....

It would have been unlikely for this priest to have made such a call to "strike" if he did not consider his identity primarily as homosexual, secondarily as persecuted legal defendent, and peripherally as a Catholic priest. This is exactly what the apostolic visitations are about.

1 posted on 09/30/2005 11:50:28 AM PDT by Antioch
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The Rev. Gerald Chojnacki, head of the New York Province of the Society of Jesus, said in a letter to his priests that he was asking bishops to tell Vatican officials who are drafting the policy "of the great harm this will cause many good priests and the Catholic faithful."




Ya know, I am not even a Catholic and even I know that you cannot be a "good priest" and be a homo-perve.


2 posted on 09/30/2005 11:53:31 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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Sorry Fr. Chojnacki. You are just plain WRONG on this one.


3 posted on 09/30/2005 11:53:56 AM PDT by 43north (If you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're still liberal at 40 you have no brain.)
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Sounds like this poor Jesuit "priest" needs a copy of the book; SO HiGH THE PRICE a book on the reality of HELL and the sins which can lead there !
Lord have mercy!


4 posted on 09/30/2005 12:05:29 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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As a semi outsider, it appears that the Western Catholics are increasingly going against Rome. Similar in the Anglican church.

How long till a split?


5 posted on 09/30/2005 12:07:38 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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That last paragraph surprises me. I have not heard that estimate before. Whose is it? Where did they get it? How was it surveyed or calculated? What is the source? Thank goodness for the careful research and rigorous honesty of the press, or I might have to doubt those percentages.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 12:22:22 PM PDT by baa39
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Tough. Enough of the queer priests that snuck into the priesthood in the liberal 1970s. Time to clean house and Pope Benedict IV's nickname is indeed "The Rottweiler of God."


9 posted on 09/30/2005 12:32:09 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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"Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays"

"As Expected, Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays"


14 posted on 09/30/2005 1:18:25 PM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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Chojnacki wrote in the letter, dated Monday, that he had participated in the funerals of several gay Jesuit clergy over the last few years.

Ages? Causes of death? I'm willing to bet we aren't talking about 80 y.o. priests who died due to traffic accidents.

15 posted on 09/30/2005 1:18:28 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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A new president was recoently appointed locally to the local Catholic High School. He is flaminingly effeninate and is becoming a laughingstock of the school. He is proving to Catholic and non-catholic schoolchildren that priests are homosexuals.


23 posted on 09/30/2005 3:02:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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Some have said clergy are considering staging a strike on a Sunday, to show how critical gay priests are to serving the church. Priests who had not disclosed their sexual orientation to parishioners are now thinking about coming out and denouncing the idea of a ban. Others have talked about signing their names to a protest letter to the Vatican.

Do it!! Do it as a public service so faithful Catholics can identify where the clear and present danger lies. Post the lists on the internet and on every parish bulletin board. The priestly sex scandals flushed out a bunch but there are still numerous sleepers out there.

All of the clergy who are up in arms about this a) do not accept the Church's teaching that homosexual acts are sinful and b)identify themselves by their sexual orientation and are proud of it.

On both counts they fail the criteria for admission to the priesthood.

As for striking, that's a great idea too. It will slash the number of sacrilegious priestly Communions on any given Sunday and likely do the same to loony liturgies. The Mass is not a commodity whose availability is at the whim and beckon of these priests to deny it to the faithful when they wish but they care not a jot about this. It's all about me, me, me!!

24 posted on 09/30/2005 3:07:16 PM PDT by marshmallow
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I was in NYC last weekend and unfortunately went to mass at St. Ignatius Loyala -- the homily was a pure political rally decrying the Vatican "witchhunt" of gays, which homily was interrupted several times by applause from the congregation. Most inappropriate for the Eucharistic celebration...


27 posted on 09/30/2005 5:09:11 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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The homosexual clergy are just upset they will be stymied from further destroying the Catholic Church from within.

Homosexuality=heresy.


30 posted on 09/30/2005 6:28:29 PM PDT by JohnRoss
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Vatican to Check U.S. Seminaries on Gay Presence
POPE APPROVES BARRING GAY SEMINARIANS
Pope bans homosexuals from ordination as priests
Questions Arise Over Seminary Inspections
New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests

New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests (ABOUT TIME)
VATICAN: HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT TO BE ORDAINED AS CATHOLIC PRIESTS
Homosexuals in the seminary; A Global Church in a Globalized World
Gay Men Ponder Impact of (Anti-Gay Clergy)Proposal by Vatican(Barf Alert)
Aquinas Seminary is First for Scrutiny

Vatican Begins Inspections At St. Louis Seminary (Rector: No homosexuality-pedophilia link)
The Sins of the Seminaries
Notre Dame Experts React to Potential Seminary Rules
Seminary Reviews Not Just About Homosexuality, Says Prelate
Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays


32 posted on 09/30/2005 8:39:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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That's a great comment you made about the idea of a "strike". However, when I link to the article on Yahoo today (Oct 1), I don't find that paragraph anywhere. However, I also heard from a friend of a friend, that this talk of a strike was on Fox News this morning. I've searched around all morning and don't find any other articles online. Probably this was an idle threat, but I'm wondering where there's some more specifics on who said this, what priests were talking of striking, is it a small group or an order, etc. Well, please let us know if you have insight into this mystery. Thanks.


38 posted on 10/01/2005 1:52:46 PM PDT by baa39
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It would have been unlikely for this priest to have made such a call to "strike" if he did not consider his identity primarily as homosexual, secondarily as persecuted legal defendent, and peripherally as a Catholic priest. This is exactly what the apostolic visitations are about.

Bingo!

40 posted on 10/02/2005 4:17:40 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays
41 posted on 10/02/2005 9:30:32 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I read an account of a young gay man who aspired to enter the Jusuit order. He stated that all the Jusuit priests he met were gay and they were constanly hitting on him from every side.

http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=2306

42 posted on 10/03/2005 12:33:11 AM PDT by freedom9 (I have heard of the surface. I'll try not to scratch it.)
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