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1 posted on 09/30/2005 2:39:10 AM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 09/30/2005 2:43:17 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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3 posted on 09/30/2005 2:43:29 AM PDT by Gamecock ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6)
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No longer can conservative, "Bible-believing" evangelicals smugly hurl insults at mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics for doctrinal treason.

Zing! There you have it.


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5 posted on 09/30/2005 2:55:17 AM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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Imagine the audacity of Pelagius and his ilk – actually trying to inject rational thought into religion. The two realms are mutually exclusive. Religion is man’s attempt to explain the irrational.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 2:58:51 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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".....This is the pattern: God provides the sacrifice, and judges those who offer their own sacrifices to appease God. God comes down to dwell with us, we do not climb up to him; God finds us, we do not find him...."

This is something to think about.


9 posted on 09/30/2005 3:31:49 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Thanks for this article which is very informative. Pelagianism, let alone Semi-Pelagianism, was never much of an issue in Eastern Christianity, perhaps because we have a rather non-Augustinian view of the Fall and its consequences. Consequently, I never quite understood what all the fuss was about among Protestants here on FR. The article you linked, however, especially in the parts where it speaks to more modern manifestations of the heresy, leads me to understand what this has all been about. It is indeed heretical and I can see how the fruits of that heresy have manifested themselves in Western Christianity and by extension, society.


10 posted on 09/30/2005 4:00:42 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Didn't I read someplace that Michael Horton teaches a false gospel?
20 posted on 09/30/2005 7:03:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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This is a great article. Thank you for posting it. I believe it was RC Sproul who referred to the "Pelagian captivity of the church" (in parallel to the Babylonian captivity of Israel) as a description of the present state of evangelicalism. I would have to say I agree with him on that point because I encounter Christians all of the time who do not believe man is really so corrupt as to need the Grace of God to believe.

Again, thank you for posting this. I do like to read articles from Horton.

35 posted on 09/30/2005 6:47:09 PM PDT by solafiducia (Take my heart and conform it to Thine, O Lord)
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