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Posted on 08/26/2005 9:49:16 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee

Edgar: Jesus' priorities, not politics, guide NCC peace, anti-poverty and eco-justice programs

August 9, 2005, Washington – In remarks today at the Progressive National Baptist Convention’s (PNBC) 44th Annual Session in Detroit, the Rev. Dr. Bob Edgar, General Secretary of the National Council of Churches USA, told the gathering of Baptist pastors, ministers and lay leaders that it is the priorities and commandments of Christ rather than partisan politics that leads the NCC to advocate for peace, ending poverty and protecting God’s creation.

“There are those who try to dilute our witness and mislead our friends by suggesting that the National Council of Churches is a partisan, left-leaning organization,” said Rev. Edgar. “But you know who it is that calls us to pursue peace, fight poverty and injustice, and care for the earth. It is the Prince of Peace who each day of his life showed his bias for the poor and prayed to the Creator who gave us this beautiful world,” he said.

The NCC has come under fire in recent months for advocating for good environmental stewardship, working to end poverty and for calling for a plan to reduce U.S. military presence in Iraq.

In an interview Rev. Edgar said of the issues in which the NCC focuses, “These are not liberal or conservative issues but issues for which God has called us as Christian believers to take responsibility.”

PNBC, which is made up of more than 2,000 churches and 2.5 million members globally, is one of the member denominations of the NCC. With an expected attendance of more than 10,000 for the Annual Session being held this week, the PNBC plans to vote on resolutions that address numerous social issues including the need for universal healthcare, establishment of a living wage, proposed changes in Social Security, the U.S. boycott of Cuba and the war in Iraq.


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bobedgar; ncc; pnbc
Every time the NCC takes on a political issue steam screams from my ears. Who are these churches that have allied themselves with the left? I mean I have read the list of churches, but are these churches of faith - or churches that have gone down the road of shedding articles of faith to become appealing to the world?

Go to their website and you will see how loony they are. Someone posted a rant from Patton earlier against the "pulpit killers" - those that used the pulpit to preach pacifism by taking one verse and discarding the entire text.

1 posted on 08/26/2005 9:49:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
Thank you for posting this, Sam Gamgee. I've added a couple of keywords -- which are helpful when doing searches in FR. The NCC and it's bigger ugly sister, the WCC -- are.. political organizations which use "scripture" to promote their own policy ideology. (Kinda like how Cindy Sheehan uses "Casey" in order to garner attention to liberal "politics".)

In the beginning, many faiths got involved, thinking the NCC, was a sort of "alliance" to keep the different faiths from warring with each other. Over the years, many churches are awakening to what exactly the NCC and WCC are "about".

2 posted on 08/27/2005 5:18:32 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
The NCC was annoyed that Bush wouldn't meet Cindy for a prayer service - I don't think Bush is into Wiccan prayers, so why would he meet her :)

Just took a look at the WCC website - it didn't make me sick to my stomach the same way the NCC site did, but I didn't dig that hard. The one mission statement that disturbed me was the mission to create dialogue with other religions. Yikes.

I will do some searches and see what else I can find. Thanks.
3 posted on 08/27/2005 10:19:04 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alia
The NCC was annoyed that Bush wouldn't meet Cindy for a prayer service - I don't think Bush is into Wiccan prayers, so why would he meet her :)

Just took a look at the WCC website - it didn't make me sick to my stomach the same way the NCC site did, but I didn't dig that hard. The one mission statement that disturbed me was the mission to create dialogue with other religions. Yikes.

I will do some searches and see what else I can find. Thanks.
4 posted on 08/27/2005 10:19:16 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Sam Gangee, I'm glad you are digging and look at the data. It is entirely revelatory as to certain agents against the United States of America.

The NCC and WCC have been very active against the School of the Americas. A very important joint understanding, militarily, between the US and other countries. The NCC and WCC stand against it.

You might not immediately find this tidbit at their site. But if you dig far enough into the past, you'll find links also the "Moms Against Nukes" the original "anti-Vietnam" protestor orgs, and like.

The School of the Americas is now "officially" closed as of year 2000. But yet, it continues. (YAY!)

5 posted on 08/27/2005 10:25:35 AM PDT by Alia
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That's good to know. So it is like being a member of an accounting association. The membership of the churches may or may not agree with the politics of the NCC - but remain members out of plain ignorance? Or sort of like the union I belong to. The paper they put out is written by Karl Marx reincarnate. I find their politics abhorrent but am required to be in the union as a condition of employment.
6 posted on 08/27/2005 10:27:15 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alia

I never heard of the School of the Americas. Does it have something to do with the Council on Foreign Relations?


7 posted on 08/27/2005 10:29:23 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alia

I never heard of the School of the Americas. Does it have something to do with the Council on Foreign Relations?


8 posted on 08/27/2005 10:29:35 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Only slightly. School of the Americas is not related to socialism, at all. CFR is merely a bargaining table wherein tinpot dictators, and reasoned, educated persons meet; and assess each other.


9 posted on 08/27/2005 10:31:41 AM PDT by Alia
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I'm not a fan of the CFR so that's good.

I tried Google and Ask Jeeves but could only find sites that are against the School - so their info will obviously be just a little biased. Was the School used to fight communists in Latin America? If so that's all I need to know.
10 posted on 08/27/2005 10:37:14 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Some remain in the NCC out of ignorance; others out of willful usurpation of doctrinal scripture.

I find their politics abhorrent but am required to be in the union as a condition of employment.

Yes. In the mid-90s, many were decrying the Social Security number and usage as the "mark of the beast". It is not. What is the "mark" is this control: Thou shalt not eat nor buy.. without the mark. It's a slow creep. But the unions (AFL-CIO) and organizations such as MOVE-ON (Hollywood) and the NCC/WCC have this "mark" in "creep" mode. I suspect they think of it as a "rising tide".

But their "tide" drowns people; it doesn't save them.

11 posted on 08/27/2005 10:40:18 AM PDT by Alia
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Sam, the CFR had some great purpose: It allowed many for the first time to hear the mutterings and antics of the "terrorists and would be dictators". If not for many conservatives who dared to go; we'd have not learned much about this organization, CFR. Of course, it was billed as one such thing; but entirely served another purpose. Now, the time is to watch the WEF (World Economic Forum); without it, Luminaries such as Bill Clinton, Ted Turner, Jordan Eason, might not have been heard around the world -- that is, their genuine agenda antics.

It is important to provide freedom and in forum, for the enemies of freedom to speak and be heard around the world.

OTOH, there is DU, and then there is FR. :)

12 posted on 08/27/2005 10:43:03 AM PDT by Alia
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Yes, Sam: In the "School of the Americas" - The US trained good men (and women) from other countries battling the restraint of freedom in their own countries. Shared knowledge and understanding about not only politics, but history, standard warfare tactics, the use of propoganda, and anti-propoganda.

Of course, the left has in perpetuity railed it was all about "evil money for the evil US "controlling interests". But really, the left is far more interested in "free, controlled monies" than any -- but they put a mask on their faces calling it "humanitarian". And so, the NCC/WCC opposed the School of the Americas -- rather hoping it would go away, so the lefties and the NCC/WCC could more broadly spread its own propoganda on the wings of abettors to a socialist/communist, and/or facist regime.

13 posted on 08/27/2005 10:47:37 AM PDT by Alia
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I left the Methodist Church because they are a member of this council and send money, as all member churches must, to support this ideological cesspool of PC types.

This council helped to crush Elian Gonzalez via their representative, joan campbell. A klintonian like, castro loving, heartless witch, imo.

14 posted on 08/27/2005 10:52:05 AM PDT by Republic
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The CFR reportedly is a wing of the Fabians of old - a tool to bring socialism to America - at least that's what conspiracy theorists claim.


15 posted on 08/27/2005 6:12:23 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Alia

I was very young, but I remember how the Dems tried to take down someone bigger than Oliver North in providing arms in Central America. Good ole Olie stood his ground. If they helped fight the commies all the power to them.


16 posted on 08/27/2005 6:14:02 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Republic
Good for you. I watched a special last night about David Koresh. It got my blood boiling that that bitch Janet Reno attacked a religious organization. It could have been resolved peacefully. And then the attack and kidnapping of Elian Gonzales. It seems to me the leftists only like the military when it is used against law abiding citizens.

I noticed some Baptist Churches on the list. I'm Canadian so I imagine the Baptist Churches I attended were never a part of it. I suppose there must be a number of Baptist Orgs in the US.
17 posted on 08/27/2005 6:17:33 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

These people are definitely not christians of any sort.


18 posted on 08/28/2005 8:23:09 PM PDT by TrailofTears (We laugh at honor and are shocked that traitors are in our midst!!! C.S. Lewis)
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