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To: Antoninus

1. As I said before, I haven't been to Saudi myself so my answer can only be based on what I heard and read. and if that contradicts ur information, that is certainly not my fault.
2. Thank u for reminding me of this. I always have known of course that Christianity is the most "truthful"religion but I didn't know that all Christians were perfect and sinless people. I do know that lying is a bad sin, "deadly" sin as u called it as well as pride and arrogance, adultery and jealousy, stealing and many others. and I can also say that I commit at least some of these sins not that seldom. I ask Allah to forgive me for them but I certainly don't know if He will forgive me or not. we don't have priests in Islam that could forgive our sins on behalf of God so I can only hope for Allah's forgiveness. and, I'm sorry but I'm positive that u as well as ur "brothers" in the religion do the same. I am positive that u too lie at least once a day, u too get mad, use bad words (even once in ur life) drink alcohol, feel jealous , fall in despair, feel hatred to people, mistreat people, love money, look at other women except ur wife, etc etc. at least I said honestly I commit sins not pretending like I or any other Muslim never lie. do u remember all these lies some ignorant people (to put it mildly) wrote here abt Islam, like that pederasty in allowed in Islam, and that it has no moral codes and therefore is so very easy to follow and that Aisha was 9 when our Prophet (sas)deflowered her and that suicide bombers r honoured among Muslims and we r proud of them and that we obey Mullahs and all the other garbage? do u remember that it was ur "honest" Christians who wrote all that? well, perhaps also not less "honest" Jews too. therefore, please don't make me laugh again by telling me that in Christianity people do not lie. if u need more examples, I will give u more examples with pleasure.


52 posted on 09/14/2005 2:37:44 AM PDT by alma88
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53 posted on 09/14/2005 4:28:10 AM PDT by Dr. Luv (QQ)
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To: alma88

Recently, a young muslim woman asked me on her blog "why have you singled out Islam for critique? After all, Judaism and Christianity have their share of extremists. Are you not worried about the threat they pose? "

I answered her this way...

Why have I singled out islam?

Here's a clue, who dances around dead infidels holding their victims burnt entrails shouting "allah akbar"?

Airplanes full of humans are hijacked and crashed into skyscrapers full of humans, hotels are bombed, 12 year old children’s birthday parties are blown up, bus loads of children are massacred. Who were the culprits? Mormons? Animists? Jews? Hindus?

Somebody executed thousands during the miss world riot while asking some of the victims to recite passages out of the koran. If they could not comply, they were butchered on the spot. Were the villains Quakers? Buddhists? Bahai? Pagans? Atheists?

The targeting, torture and massacre of schoolchildren in Russia was perhaps the most barbarous act in 2004. Who I ask were the culprits? Unitarians? Scientologists? Catholics?

There is, of course, the massacre in N.Y. the hundreds of Australians BBQ'd in Bali and hundreds more blown apart in Madrid. Who did that I wonder? Falun-gong?

Let’s not forget all the innocent people beheaded on video (shouting alla akbar) while they danced around in joy.

The common thread between all of these horrific crimes is a religion I believe is a grave threat to civilization - islam.

Equal rights before the law do not exist under Islamic law. One citizen, one vote does not exist under Islamic law. Freedom of worship does not exist under Islamic law. Minorities -- that is, non-Muslims -- enjoy rights and protections at the pleasure of the Muslim community that are ever-subject to the capriciousness of a rights-canceling fatwa.

Indeed, Islamic law is not the basis of a religion, as the Judeo-Christian world understands religion, but is rather the basis of a controlling ideology that is nothing short of totalitarian.

Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, a Saudi journalist in London said: “It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists,” he writes, “but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. We cannot clear our names unless we own up to the shameful fact that terrorism has become an Islamic enterprise; an almost exclusive monopoly, implemented by Muslim men and women."


54 posted on 09/14/2005 4:29:19 AM PDT by Dr. Luv (QQ)
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To: alma88

Here's a site you will find interesting...


http://www.faithfreedom.org./Quran.htm


55 posted on 09/14/2005 4:31:25 AM PDT by Dr. Luv (QQ)
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To: alma88
1. As I said before, I haven't been to Saudi myself so my answer can only be based on what I heard and read. and if that contradicts ur information, that is certainly not my fault.

Sure it is. One can not willfully promote a lie that everyone else in the world knows is false (i.e., that anyone can build a church in Saudi) and expect to have any credibility. Ignorance is certainly no defense.

2. Thank u for reminding me of this. I always have known of course that Christianity is the most "truthful"religion but I didn't know that all Christians were perfect and sinless people.

While Chistians may lie because they are not perfect and subject to the temptations of satan, nowhere is lying countenenced in the Christian scriptures. Quite the opposite. There is no principal of Al-Takeyya in Christianity.

Reflect on this:

The teaching of Christ: "But I say to you not to swear at all, neither by heaven for it is the throne of God: Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool: nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great king: Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil."

The teachings of the Koran: "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts." Surah 2:225

The teachings of Christ: "You are of your father the devil: and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning: and he stood not in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof." John 8:44

The teaching of the Koran: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them." Surah 3: 28

The teaching of Christ: "But I say to you that hear: Love your enemies. Do good to them that hate you. Bless them that curse you and pray for them that calumniate you." Luke 6:27-28

The teaching of the Koran: "Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Sura 48.29)

Christians have not always been perfect in following the injuctions of Christ, but the nearer they come to perfect following, blessings will invariably flow for all people. Conversely, when the teachings of Mohammed are followed to the letter, the fruits are blood, sorrow, deceit and misery--even for those who are not infidels.
56 posted on 09/14/2005 6:59:30 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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