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PRAYER REQUEST
06/18/05 | BIRDS

Posted on 06/18/2005 6:30:17 AM PDT by BIRDS

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1 posted on 06/18/2005 6:30:17 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

You are going to have to be a little more specific, than 'dark'. Tough to pray for the resolution of something with no description. Speak plainly, are you against Social Security reform?


2 posted on 06/18/2005 6:58:33 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

No, this isn't about Social Security and, no, I am not "against Social Security reform."

It's not about any financial or "entitlement" issue.

There's a federal title that is very clear about the issues I'm referring to here, although it's many hundreds of pages long, it's still clear in specific conditions, areas of concern (anyone can read it, is the problem for this local group, because by reading the Title, it clearly identifies where they are compromising the legislation).

It's not an entitlement issue. And, by "dark," I mean that people who are obviously not with Christ, are not saved, and because of that, are influenced and led by other elements, have appeared in my life for purposes of attempting to proliferate a wrong.

It's "dark." It's also evil. However, they're the group I have to work with here.

I'm probably going to write to my Congressman about this, given that he's recently been nominated to an office by President Bush -- and he's a conservative Republican I admire and have voted for so I would find his response believable and reliable -- but the immediate situation is grim and has very much offended me (meaning, it's both depressed and upset my Irish, and, it has and is testing my faith, which, in my experience, evil does).


3 posted on 06/18/2005 7:13:29 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

Prayers that those making the decisions that affect you may be enlightened to the truth. Amen.


4 posted on 06/18/2005 7:18:02 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: BIRDS; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; Pyro7480; ...
Prayer Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Prayer Ping List.

Please post your prayers to BIRDS;

5 posted on 06/18/2005 7:19:56 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: xone

Another bit of information is that one of the most obstructionist in this small group self identifies as some sort of activist with a Senior Helps group...I'm not a "Senior" and this woman seems far too aggressively negative toward me to make any sense to reality, defying even the legislation involved inorder to apply a lot of "shoulds" and "might nots" and such...clearly a discriminatory state of mind, communicates a clear disregard for the Title (legislation) in favor of her emotional sense of what ought to be and should be and such.

The larger issue to me is that they are defying the federal Title in application based upon emotional sense of resentment and such...whatever.

I'll survive, but it's a very big offense to me to experience this.

I am not asking for prayer for "a check" or something like that. I'm asking for spiritual helps here. Criticism and politics will only serve the already involved individuals' irreverant actions that create harm.


6 posted on 06/18/2005 7:20:04 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Salvation

Appreciate that, and, amen.

~:-D


7 posted on 06/18/2005 7:22:31 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

I am sure someone will explain any set procedure otherwise.

 

As far as I know, you have done it just right.

 

If you've ever dealt with a local organization that is supposed to be organized and regulated by a federal agency, federal legislation, but which "interprets" and "edits" the legislation to suit whatever or whomever, and by that process interferes negatively on the lives of others by interfering with citizens' interaction with that federal legislation...inexplicably, without provocation, just because they can.

 

Until I noticed that you are from California, I thought you were talking about a situation locally. In your generalized terms, it is identical. Based on that similarity, it may not be a reaction to you, as a human being. It may well be that the proposal, or application, you presented is seen by them as something which endangers their “game.”

 

What I mean, is that they have built themselves a little fiefdom which uses the power of the law to control other people, but they cannot be held accountable to follow that same law. If your proposal is clearly allowed by law, but does not fit their desires, they may be afraid that their corruption will be brought to light.

 

DG


8 posted on 06/18/2005 7:28:48 AM PDT by DoorGunner ( ...and so, all Israel will be saved.)
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To: BIRDS

prayer bump


9 posted on 06/18/2005 7:33:17 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: BIRDS

May God strengthen truth and light and may any evil intentions be exposed.


10 posted on 06/18/2005 7:38:35 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: BIRDS; Salvation
And, by "dark," I mean that people who are obviously not with Christ, are not saved, and because of that, are influenced and led by other elements...

As a Catholic, what do you mean by "are not saved"?

11 posted on 06/18/2005 7:43:42 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Three guys walked into a bar. The fourth one ducked.)
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To: DoorGunner

Ahhh, so I see. Thanks for that. All the more reason to pray not only for me (I need some support here, because I know that I have not acted with any harms in my mind and heart to or about anyone, have not behaved in any fashion that I feel remorse about or should, and I have not felt so much intimidated as a sense of real anger that they appear to be so negatively affecting other people who are otherwise addressed by this Title, and yet being denied access to and by it because of a small group of intermediaries...who are actually not even taking the Title into specific consideration!

That last part is where I experience anger...they obviously dislike me on a personal level and that's something I can live with (I think I'd feel uncomfortable if I thought they DID "like" me, is what I mean, under the circumstances). But that they are systematically, basically, "interpreting" federal legislation that is as specific as all 800 pages or so of it can be (about one area, one "thing"), I find myself quite alarmed that this can be occuring, and is, based upon what I've observed and experienced.

But, yes, you're right as to what you've described. That they could be/would be "exposed" is, in fact, what seems to be motivating their intensity. Otherwise, I can't figure out what's the deal here...evil makes a visit, I guess.


12 posted on 06/18/2005 7:46:24 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: pax_et_bonum

I used an expression that other Christians of other denominations might recognize.

Salvation is through Christ. I do understand and accept Catholic instruction about this issue, however, if that's what you're asking.

I didn't anticipate a dogma discussion here, however. Although if you'd like to write about that, I'd find reading it worthwhile as I'm sure others would, too.


13 posted on 06/18/2005 7:48:48 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: pax_et_bonum

I attend Mass and receive Communion, I've been baptised and confirmed in the Catholic Church, I abide by the Vatican authority, if that's what you're asking.

My dad was a Catholic Priest (after I was born, converted and was confirmed a Catholic Priest).

Unfortunately, he's no longer here to talk this over with, but I've been saying some prayers for his intercession, particularly being that Father's Day is tomorrow.

Now I'm depressed again. Sorry.


14 posted on 06/18/2005 7:51:23 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: McGavin999

Yes, and amen to that, too. Thank you for your caring prayer.


15 posted on 06/18/2005 7:52:29 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS; Salvation
May you find help, enlightment,
and guidance, through
Christ our Lord.   Amen.

 

16 posted on 06/18/2005 8:03:55 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: BIRDS

JMJ

The Peace of Christ

Have no fear, you will be offered up at Mass, I will say rosaries for you. It is important that you go to confession, you have to attend daily Mass for strength (this will heal and give you better discernment in what the Lord is asking you to do), talk to your spiritual director (if you don't have one, a holy priest) and continually ask for the Lord's mercy and justice. The most important thing to pray for is strength that you may accept his will.

God Bless, Mary Keep

Freep mail me if you want to talk.

P.S. This is an exterior attack, don't despair. The good news is: Those who practice evil are so overconfident that they make mistakes in their pride. The body language and them being uncomfortable means you are doing something right. Don't think otherwise. Remember, you are a Catholic and have the best of both worlds...you can offer it up for them (the best holy revenge), say your morning offering, offer all your work, prayers, joys and sufferings of the day to Our Lord in union with his suffering. Don't look at things in a worldly sense...you have to flip it...you are in the world, not of it; That's why you can see it and others seem not to. Evil is trembling in its hooves...and it should. We know how the story ends. Have courage.


AMDG


17 posted on 06/18/2005 8:14:54 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: BIRDS

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.


18 posted on 06/18/2005 8:17:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: BIRDS

Run that by me one more time...was your dad in another denomination (Anglican or such)?

I hope you had a Mass said for him.


19 posted on 06/18/2005 8:20:33 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Just what the doctor ordered.


20 posted on 06/18/2005 8:21:29 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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