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This Amish girl suffers from a genetic disorder.
1 posted on 06/11/2005 1:55:31 PM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

Don't the Muslims also inter marry? Definitely the straight path to obsolesence.


2 posted on 06/11/2005 1:57:36 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

I see this, not to such an extent, in the Orthodox Jewish Community too.


4 posted on 06/11/2005 2:04:31 PM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isiah 5:20-21)
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“If we can find out what went wrong, we might be able to correct it.”

What went wrong: inbreeding.

How to correct it: marry outside the family community.

19 posted on 06/11/2005 3:56:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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24 posted on 06/11/2005 4:11:46 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: twin1

You'll find this interesting.


26 posted on 06/11/2005 4:37:24 PM PDT by twin2
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To: NYer
The "Founder Effect" is the cause for the high prevalence of Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome in Puero Ricans. The effects are occulocutaneous albinism, pulmonary fibrosis, blindness, etc. leading to death by age 50. About 1 in 2000 Puerto Ricans have this disease. The origin of HPS in Puerto Rico has been traced to a region of southern Spain, and a connection to cases in Holland is possible.
27 posted on 06/11/2005 4:48:33 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I can't think of anything clever.)
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To: NYer
Here's another classical American "founder effect" genetic disease:

Tangier Disease

by Jackie Newman

Tangier Disease is an extremely rare autosomal recessive metabolic disorder. Documentation shows that as of 1988, 27 cases of Tangier Disease had been reported (Makrides pg.465) and in 1992 the reported cases were still fewer than 50 persons worldwide (Thoene pg.265).

The majority of the cases tend to localize in one single area of the U.S., Tangier Island, Virginia. The fact that most of the people that are affected by Tangier disease all live in close proximity to one another could be due to Founder's effect. The original settlers to the island came in 1686 and it is possible that one or two of them were carriers of the disease or actually had the symptoms and passed it down through the blood line.

Characteristics of Tangier Disease include increased levels or even a complete absence of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) concentrations in one's plasma, low cholesterol levels in the plasma, increased cholesteryl esters in the tonsils, spleen, liver, skin and lymph nodes. One easily visual characteristic usually found in children with Tangier disease is the presence of enlarged, yellow-orange tonsils.

Initial research of Tangier disease showed a marked decrease in the HDL concentrations when compared to normal controls. In some cases the reduction was as great as 50% (Schmitz pg.6306). Scientists studied the HDL concentrations and looked for any possible links in its involvement with the disease. They specifically looked at the apo A-I (apolipoprotein) concentrations, which is a major protein component of HDL.

The main hypothesis was that apo A-I was structurally abnormal. Studies proved that this was incorrect because the DNA- derived protein sequence for Tangier apo A-I was identical to the control groups apo A-I sequence (Makrides pg.468). Scientists discovered that the cause of Tangier disease is involved with the intracellular membrane trafficking of the HDL. Normally macrophages inside the cell have receptors that bind the HDL. After the HDL is bound it is transported into the endosomes. The endosome is transported through the cell without any degradation by the lysosome and the HDL is eventually resecreted from the cell. It is during this cycle that there are problems for the Tangier disease people. When the HDL is allowed to bind to the receptor monocyte, the two stick together but they never separate. The HDL is not resecreted outside the cell (Schmitz pg.6308) The data suggest that there is a deficiency in the cellular metabolism of HDL in the Tangier monocytes. The HDL-monocyte unit together also supports the observed condition of high concentrations of excess cholesterol in body tissues.

Currently the treatment for Tangier patients is dependent on the various symptoms, ranging from heart surgery to removal of organs. Gene therapy has been proposed as a possible treatment but is difficult because there isn't anything wrong specifically with the gene involved in the HDL conversion. The problem is in the cellular transportation. Many of the specific processes within the cell are still not known so any extensive treatment is still investigational.

45 posted on 06/11/2005 8:22:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: NYer

Inbreeding, wonderful. The Amish get an unwarranted good rap from other Christians. I guess it's because they stick to their guns on technology. But really, it's cultic behavior and a ridiculous mis-application of Scripture. Christ said not to be of the world, but He also said we are IN the world. He didn't ask us to ridiculously obsess over who's wearing what color of buttons on their clothing.


55 posted on 06/12/2005 11:41:37 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: NYer

On a similar note I have a dear friend who was 'recruited' heavily to join a small Mormon community in the Idaho mountains. He was tall and strong, and they were honestly looking to widen and stengthen the gene pool. It was kind of scary in retrospect, but he got a lot of good free meals for about 6 months...


68 posted on 06/12/2005 2:10:49 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: neverdem


77 posted on 06/26/2005 4:15:16 PM PDT by Coleus (God doesn't like moderates, Rev 3:15-16)
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To: NYer
The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly

The Age of Autism: Julia, part two

78 posted on 06/26/2005 4:15:55 PM PDT by Coleus (God doesn't like moderates, Rev 3:15-16)
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To: NYer

This is so sad. Good people by and large and now they deal with a problem without a solution. Unless they want to abandon their way of life and marry outside.


79 posted on 06/26/2005 4:28:18 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: NYer

Really sad story. I think I saw something about it on television.


87 posted on 08/07/2005 9:12:44 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Some years ago my wife and I visited the San Blas Islands inhabited by the Kuna Indians. I can't remember what was said about it, but the people were strikingly identical in appearance. The men were perhaps very shy of tourists and were not present, but the women look like they were the same person but possibly at different ages.

I would not doubt that these people choose their mates from among their own tribe and have done so for many generations. I don't recall hearing anything about genetic defects, though.

88 posted on 08/22/2010 7:09:31 PM PDT by William Tell
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