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Catholic Church Prepares for Cold War With Evangelists
Pacific News Service ^ | 05/31/05 | Paolo Pontoniere

Posted on 06/01/2005 6:29:39 AM PDT by murphE

Editor's Note: Statements by Pope Benedict XVI and the appointment of San Francisco Archbishop William Levada signal a Holy See ready to counteract the expansion of evangelical groups worldwide.

SAN FRANCISCO--On the day before the conclave to choose a new pope began, future pontiff Joseph Ratzinger led a liturgy that reassured the church's believers that the Holy See was not giving up on them and was prepared to fight for the salvation of their souls. He surely meant to allude to the fight against moral relativism, but he also had his sights set on evangelicalism.

Indeed, during the first mass held by Ratzinger as Pope Benedict XVI, he strongly implied that the Catholic church is the rightful House of Christ, and said that his first commitment was toward "the full and visible unity of Christ's followers."

Today, to regain ground in the first world and continue to expand in the Third World, the Roman Catholic Church, more than fighting secularism, must counteract the expansion of evangelical groups. It is a silent clash that could be compared to the protracted, mostly slow-burning feud between capitalism and communism during the Cold War.

According to some researchers, evangelical Christianity is expanding three times faster than the world population and is the only existing religious group showing a significant growth through conversion. By contrast, the Roman Catholic Church is expanding at a slower pace than the population, which will mean an overall decrease in the number of Catholics worldwide.

In addition, the dissolution of the Berlin Wall not only reinvigorated the Orthodox church, but also saw huge numbers of believers from the former Socialist bloc -- where the church had been persecuted -- move into evangelical groups.

There are currently more evangelicals in Asia than in North America. Singapore's churches are among the most active in the world, sending one missionary abroad per every 1,000 members. Seven of the world's 10 largest evangelical churches can be found in Seoul alone, a city in which 110 years ago there was none.

In Latin America, a mostly Catholic region for the past 500 years, the number of evangelicals has grown from under 250,000 in 1900 to over 60 million in 2000. Critics of the Vatican say the vacuum left by Pope John Paul II's disavowal of the "basic Christian communities" movement has been filled by the evangelicals.

In 1960, the number of evangelicals living in the developing countries were one-half of those in the West; in the year 2000 they were four times more and in 2010 they will be seven times as numerous.

In America, where even Protestant groups have lost 5.4 million members over the last decade, evangelicals have enjoyed a growth rate of 40 percent. They have become the largest religious force in the United States, with 26 percent of all believers -- and they wield undeniable political clout.

"The current pope is a renovator. But there cannot be renovation without tradition," says Father Joseph Fazio, founder of St. Ignatius Press and Chancellor of Ave Maria University in Florida. "I don't have any doubt that he'll realize the full spirit of Vatican II, of unifying all of Christ's believers under the benevolent care of the Holy See.

"He has already laid the doctrinal ground for the renaissance of the church -- he did it when he was at the helm of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith. Under Benedict XVI the world will know that the Roman Catholic Church has Christ's message at its core and follows his teachings closely," adds Fr. Fazio.

The battle for the soul of believers in developed countries, particularly the United States, is also critical -- most of the funds used by alternative evangelical churches to send missionaries and proselytize in the poorer countries come from there.

The appointment of San Francisco Archbishop William Levada to the previous position held by Pope Benedict XVI himself can be better appreciated in this light.

Levada's appointment sends the message that the church entrusts its doctrines to a prelate who had led a diocese in America's most secular humanist and morally relativistic city. Levada has dealt firsthand with the legacies of free love, feminism, the gay movement and the evangelical juggernaut.

"Benedict XVI has chosen Levada specifically because he knows how to face these challenges," says Father Labib Kobti, pastor at St. Thomas More in San Francisco and U.S. Representative for the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem.

"When Levada expressed his surprise at his appointment, the Pope responded that he was in fact the right man for the task because he came from a world where evangelical groups were a challenge, where the message of Christ was being distorted, and that he had provided a compassionate but firm rebuttal to the many assaults that the church of San Francisco had faced during his years as head of the diocese."

Under Levada's almost decade-long tenure, San Francisco's Catholic church regained a religious presence that had been faltered under the more politically adaptable administration of Archbishop John Quinn.

Father Kobti, however, dismisses suggestions that the Vatican is more than alarmed at the growing influence of evangelicalism. "In the past the church has been given for dead more than once," he says. "Take for example the rise of the Baptists and of the Lutherans."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics; Theology
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
Personal opinions can never constitute evidence that the Bible is mistaken.

True.

241 posted on 06/02/2005 7:14:42 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: murphE
The atheist left has realized that they need to stir the pot and try to cause emnity between the evangelicals and Catholics. Divide and conquer. I'm as easily baited by this stuff as anyone, but I think we need to put aside our differences and work together to ensure the defeat of the TRUE enemy.

Why should I waste my time attacking Protestants who agree with me on 80-90% of the important issues, when there exist large numbers of people that absolutely despise all things Christian? Both Catholics and Protestants should concentrate their efforts on the atheist secularists and muslims, not on each other.

"And John, answering, said: Master, we saw a certain man casting out devils in thy name: and we forbade him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said to him: Forbid him not: for he that is not against you is for you." Luke 9:49-50
242 posted on 06/02/2005 7:19:27 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: trisham

Thank you. I find that a lot of people, Catholics and Christians of other denominations, have little understanding of the Rosary. And some of Catholicisms biggest bashers don't understand it and a few don't want to. Some are simply unaware that the info on the Rosary and other topics is out there, that it exists. Some don't want that information. It's been indispensible for me.


243 posted on 06/02/2005 7:39:32 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Antoninus
but I think we need to put aside our differences and work together to ensure the defeat of the TRUE enemy.

Thank you so much for this post. You hit the nail right on the head, we Protestants and Catholics, the people of Jesus Christ must not allow ourselves to be divided.

In today's world, "A (Christian) House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand", was never more true.

244 posted on 06/02/2005 7:39:43 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: theFIRMbss

LOL- Where did you find that quote from her?


245 posted on 06/02/2005 7:40:55 AM PDT by amosmoses
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
The logic of retaining the death penalty is because it is prescribed by the Holy Bible, the inspired word of God.

Does your Bible contain the incident where Jesus saves the adultress from being stoned to death? What is your personal interpretation of the incident?

SD

246 posted on 06/02/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Antoninus
Why should I waste my time attacking Protestants who agree with me on 80-90% of the important issues, when there exist large numbers of people that absolutely despise all things Christian? Both Catholics and Protestants should concentrate their efforts on the atheist secularists and muslims, not on each other.

***************

Agreed.

247 posted on 06/02/2005 7:55:55 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: SoothingDave
She was not a murderess, just an adulteress; so death by stoning is a tad harsh. Plus it was the ancient equivalent of a lynch mob after her, not the authorities and due process.

However note this well that Jesus never questioned the Mosaic Law, when He said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." He knew the whole episode was a trap set by the Pharisees. This incident is seized upon by the foes of capital punishment, but fails to prove that Jesus was against the concept, conversely it is implicit in His remarks that He accepted capital punishment.

More telling was the fact that He was crucified with two thieves and spoke to one of them promising him paradise. Not one word about the unjustness of being put to death for a crime or any criticism of the executioners. There is not one passage in the Bible that gives rise to the false notion that capital punishment should be forbidden, all the evidence is contrary.
248 posted on 06/02/2005 8:21:38 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!.....ripped from the headlines.....!)
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To: Salvation

Agreed. Sounds like rampant Catholic bashing to me.


249 posted on 06/02/2005 8:24:44 AM PDT by tdewey10 (End abortion now.)
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To: Salvation
There is a reason that the Catholic Church has a much more enormous problem with molestation than any other denomination; having paid the victims over $600,000,000. No amount of finger pointing elsewhere can gloss over that fact. A celibate all male priesthood that is tolerant of homosexuals in the ranks is to blame. Some estimates are the priesthood is 1/3 homosexual. Since homosexuality is an abomination, no homos should be ordained as priests. With married heterosexual clergy, a massive scandal like that would not have occurred.
250 posted on 06/02/2005 8:38:48 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!.....ripped from the headlines.....!)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
However note this well that Jesus never questioned the Mosaic Law, when He said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

You see some practical way for there to be sinless people to carry out the Mosaic Law, when it requires the death penalty?

It's funny how you find fault with "the ancient equivalent of a lynch mob" while you yourself salivate at the thought of executing "scum."

SD

251 posted on 06/02/2005 8:46:28 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: amosmoses
>LOL- Where did you find that quote from her?

I was pretending.
Sexy Paula is too cool
to say such a thing.

The actual words
are now internet mythos.
One history is here:

    Cats: All your base are belong to us

252 posted on 06/02/2005 9:06:41 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Aleighanne
>That chick seriously freaks me out...she looks so plastic and soooooo fake

Yes. But I admit
in my deepest, secret soul,
when she dresses up

in a soft sweater,
curls up on her TV couch
and reads the Gospel,

I think she's sexy.
It's weird hair and weird make up,
but she's got that look . . .

253 posted on 06/02/2005 9:15:44 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: SoothingDave
"It's funny how you find fault with "the ancient equivalent of a lynch mob" while you yourself salivate at the thought of executing "scum."

Ask aspiring.hillbilly if the gates of Heaven are open to the self-righteous.

254 posted on 06/02/2005 10:32:37 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: SoothingDave
Mosaic law doesn't specify a sinless executioner. What Jesus objected to was the summary justice of a mob.

Should taxpayers be penalized by taxation, better known as slavery, to provide room and board for life to the condemned? That is the ultimate injustice. The Bible sanctions the execution of a duly convicted criminal, and to object to that principal is to disbelieve the Word of God.
255 posted on 06/02/2005 10:55:34 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!.....ripped from the headlines.....!)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; All; Salvation

"but I think we need to put aside our differences and work together to ensure the defeat of the TRUE enemy.
Thank you so much for this post. You hit the nail right on the head, we Protestants and Catholics, the people of Jesus Christ must not allow ourselves to be divided.

In today's world, "A (Christian) House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand", was never more true."THANK YOU"AxelPaulsenJr"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good person is good person evil person is evil person good G-D is good G-D!!!!brother is brother sister is sister love love love.


256 posted on 06/02/2005 11:05:00 AM PDT by anonymoussierra (In te credo, in te spero, te amo, te adoro, beata Trinitas unus Deus)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
Mosaic law doesn't specify a sinless executioner.

Jesus Christ does. To object to that is to disbelieve the Word of God.

SD

257 posted on 06/02/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: theFIRMbss

You are one sick individual...Have you considered therapy? Like shock therapy? LOL!!
Where did she get that hair? It has to be a wig.


258 posted on 06/02/2005 11:15:58 AM PDT by Aleighanne
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To: SoothingDave

Prove that by a quotation from scripture...


259 posted on 06/02/2005 11:18:55 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!.....ripped from the headlines.....!)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

260 posted on 06/02/2005 11:21:10 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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