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Cardinal says Priests will marry
The Scotsman ^
| 5/26/2005
Posted on 05/25/2005 10:35:49 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Your source for that information?
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:26:17 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
To: NYer
42
posted on
05/26/2005 6:27:43 AM PDT
by
cyborg
(tagline under construction)
To: sinkspur
I don't think this will happen.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:28:47 AM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Mr. Jeeves
allowing priests to marry would be positive, 100% consistent with the Church's mission
Give the sexual libertinism rampant in today's society, I disagree with your statement. The public--especially the MSM--would view (or spin) any such change as a surrender to the morals of the world. Indeed, more asceticism, not less is necessary in today's world.
To: Conservative til I die
Considering 90% of US Catholics aren't even aware of the Anglican Dispensation or even the Eastern Rite, I say you're wrong.US Catholics, in every survey taken in the last fifteen years, support the ordination of married men by 60-70%.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:43:11 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
To: NYer
Your source for that information? That's a hoary old Protestant standard. I know I read it at least 30 years ago.
Doesn't make much sense though. I seem to recall that in eras of high corruption, unmarried churchmen had no qualms about leaving property and church office to their illegitimate sons.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:47:19 AM PDT
by
maryz
To: St. Johann Tetzel
I agree. He should be removed as a Cardinal, for violating his promise. Is there a procedure for that, short of excommunication?
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:49:08 AM PDT
by
B Knotts
(Viva il Papa!)
To: Mr. Jeeves
How would priest's sons inherit property which belonged to the Church?
That just doesn't make any sense.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:50:54 AM PDT
by
B Knotts
(Viva il Papa!)
To: Siobhan; Salvation; NYer; St. Johann Tetzel; Petronski
"the Superforce of evil"
Siobhan, are you by chance referring to the "Superforce" as described in The Keys of This Blood by the late Fr. Malachi Martin? Great book, it is non-fiction as were many of his.
It's the only place I've seen the term use in this context and your post caught me at that point!
I'm VERY curious...
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:52:46 AM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
To: St. Johann Tetzel; Siobhan; Salvation; NYer; Petronski
"The Cardinal has angered conservative Catholics in the past with his acceptance of gay priests, as long as they remained celibate."
This Cardinal should be excommunicated. It's the ONLY proper thing to do. He is part of the rot within the Church.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:54:15 AM PDT
by
cpforlife.org
(Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
To: gogogodzilla
I thought Peter was married.
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posted on
05/26/2005 6:54:28 AM PDT
by
Sybeck1
(chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
To: sinkspur
There are seven rites in the Catholic Church: Latin, Byzantine, Alexandrian, Syriac, Armenian, Maronite, and Chaldean. As far as I know only one does not allow married priests. There have always been married Catholic priests. I fail to see what the big deal is...
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posted on
05/26/2005 7:01:05 AM PDT
by
thurifer
(If you can see the altar there's not enough smoke)
To: gogogodzilla; cyborg; Mr. Jeeves; NYer; eastsider
Didn't the Catholic church once allow priests to marry? Never that I know of. The Catholic Church in the West did for a while ordain already-married men, but:
1. Even when common, this practice was never considered normative.
2. There's much evidence that after ordination married clergy lived with their spouses as brother and sister, forgoing sexual relations.
3. The "change" that you mention in the early part of the second millennium was merely the legal codification of a near-universal (in the West) discipline of celibacy that had already been recognised as normative for centuries.
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posted on
05/26/2005 7:11:00 AM PDT
by
Romulus
(Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
To: biblewonk
Biblehack displays his/her/its ignorance of Scripture, yet again.
To: gogogodzilla
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To: Mr. Jeeves
allowing priests to marry would be positive, 100% consistent with the Church's mission, and would help dilute the effect of pedophiles who currently seek out the priesthood in inordinate numbers.The problem is not with pedophile priests, it is with homosexual priests, and allowing priests to marry won't change that. NOT allowing homosexuals into the priesthood is the only thing that will.
Allowing priests to marry wouldn't keep pedophiles out, either. Pedophiles can be married, and most are. They seek out employment or situations that allow them access to young children that few would question. Being married gives them 'cover' to do their dirty work.
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posted on
05/26/2005 7:25:21 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: sinkspur
US Catholics, in every survey taken in the last fifteen years, support the ordination of married men by 60-70%.So we are now supposed to take public surveys to determine what we are to believe and how to adapt the Church to new norms and new practices?
For example, should multiple divorces now be accepted? Gee, the surveys would suggest... Just what are you suggesting here?
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posted on
05/26/2005 7:31:49 AM PDT
by
vox_freedom
(Fear no evil)
To: vox_freedom
So we are now supposed to take public surveys to determine what we are to believe and how to adapt the Church to new norms and new practices?My response was targeted to another poster, who said that "US Catholics don't know about married priests in Eastern Rites or the Anglican Dispensation."
If that's true, surveys indicate it doesn't matter.
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posted on
05/26/2005 7:35:08 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
(If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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