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1 posted on 05/04/2005 9:54:22 PM PDT by murphE
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2 posted on 05/04/2005 9:56:46 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

The truth.


5 posted on 05/04/2005 10:02:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (.:: "Do not be afraid of Christ! He takes nothing away, and he gives you everything." ::.)
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To: murphE

The plainspoken truth. The fact that many consider the truth outlandish underscores the need for more of it to be spoken.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 10:46:30 PM PDT by Jaysun (The road to despotism is paved with "fairness")
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"All Christians, including state employees, have a duty to avail themselves of conscientious objection because the law of which we are speaking inflicts a deep moral wound on the Christian faith."

Sounds right to me.

11 posted on 05/05/2005 5:24:54 AM PDT by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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The Rainbow Sash Movement has been very vocal recently, with "in your face" rhetoric aimed at our new Holy Father, urging rebellion and disobedience.

If the Church continues to openly and unapologetically preach the Gospel-as she will- this will lead inevitably to a new persecution and attacks against her, with the sodomy-lovers in the vanguard of the movement.

All in the name of "tolerance" and "eliminating hateful religious propaganda", you understand. Look at what's now happening in Canada, Spain, yes the US too, and other post-Christian countries, with laws about "hate speech", homosexual "marriage" etc. No dissent is permitted.

The train has already gone too far down the tracks for this to be reversed and the secular onslaught against the Church wiil gather force as more faithful and courageous leaders cry out the truth.

When Herod was rebuked by John the Baptist for his immorality, John paid for it with his life. Nothing has changed.

12 posted on 05/05/2005 5:50:05 AM PDT by marshmallow
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It's nice to see this kind of language coming from Rome. Let's hope the Bishops Confrences don't employ their usual tapdance of issuing ambiguously contradictory statements or saying that it doesn't apply to them.


13 posted on 05/05/2005 6:06:44 AM PDT by te lucis ("A Catholic likes using his mind on his Faith, like burnishing a treasure." -Bp. Richard Williamson)
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Asked about allowing same sex couples to adopt children, the Cardinal answered, "This would destroy the child's future, it would be an act of moral violence against the child."

He said, "They say that children adopted by two people of the same sex are very happy. A child may be for a couple of years but when the child reaches the age of reason, when he grows up and becomes a young adult, how tragic it will be for him to let his friends know that his 'parents' are two women or two men? This situation endangers the child's personality, balance, harmony."

So much for the "wisdom" of Texas allowing homosexuals to adopt.

As an interesting aside, however, I hear the "Old Catholic" or "Old Roman Catholic" churches (schismatic churches that broke away from Rome in the late 1800s) sometimes support homosexual adoption, and their ordained clergy, some of whom are former Catholic priests who left to get married, often make such statements publicly. In fact, this was mentioned to me today by a wonderful priest, Fr. Schumacher, Vicar General of the Diocese of Fort Worth.

16 posted on 05/05/2005 5:03:28 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel (Sometimes "Defending the Faith" means you have to be willing to get your hands dirty...)
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Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Good, good, good. I am very happy that the new Pope and his assistants (I don't know the proper words...) are SPEAKING THE TRUTH NON-STOP!!!

(Sorry, had to shout a little.)

:-)

I like this part especially:

""As I have said many times, homosexual peoples must be respected, loved and assisted. We must help them overcome this situation if they seriously want to and help them realise that there is not only life on earth, there is another life. The Church does not wish to see these 'couples' suffer discrimination, or humiliation, jeered at or treated without respect. They are human persons and we must love them. It is false to say that the Church does not love these people. She loves them and wants to lead them to eternal salvation."

Note: There is another life. If we base our decisions on the erroneous belief that no one will sow what they reap, that death meands the end of existence, then we go to hell, and so does the world as a whole. People need to know the basic truth that as we play, we will have to pay, one way or another. Actions have repercussions, even if we can't see this happening with our earthly eyes.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

Another note: Isn't it mind boggling that people call this kind of message "hateful"???

17 posted on 05/05/2005 5:17:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: murphE
How comforting to hear this! Bishop Trujillo speaks rightly and accurately.

Is it my imagination, or does it seem that more Bishop and priests have recently found the moral courage to speak up?

20 posted on 05/05/2005 5:39:50 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schiavo was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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Catholic Ping
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21 posted on 05/05/2005 6:23:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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Thank you God! We need to hear a lot more of this from the Church hierarchs.


25 posted on 05/05/2005 6:41:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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Hate the sin. Love the sinner. Bring them back.


29 posted on 05/06/2005 6:22:38 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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