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I’m not leaving, I’m not going to be quiet
Busted Halo ^ | April 19(?), 2005 | Nora Bradbury-Haehl

Posted on 04/23/2005 12:35:40 AM PDT by Aristotle721

A young adult minister reflects on the election of Pope Benedict XVI

We were at the zoo. Every few months our parish staff tries to do something just for fun. When you spend a good portion of your time together talking about who’s dying and who’s dead its important to go outside and play once in while. So, we were at the zoo. We had admired the tiger and the elephants, applauded the sea lion’s tricks, wondered at the wolves and were on our way through the reptile house talking about where we wanted to go for lunch when we got the call. Our secretary’s son called to tell us the smoke was white.

“There’s a new pope.” We looked at each other nervously. “Ratzinger” he said.

“Are you sure?” his mother questioned.

“Yes, Ratzinger is the new pope.”

We just stood there in disbelief. I turned to the pastor and asked “This is a drinking lunch right?”

“I think it’ll have to be.” he told me.

“Maybe he’ll surprise us.” offered the music director. “This is a new role” suggested the Pastoral Associate, “maybe the office will change his outlook.” “We should trust in the Holy Spirit” mused another colleague.

We got to lunch. I ordered a beer and started drinking. My cell phone was ringing like nuts-my sister, a youth minister friend, my husband- that one I answered. “He’s chosen the name Benedict.” my husband said, “The last Benedict stopped the anti-modernist witch-hunts and spoke out against World War I”. I interrupted the ordering of appetizers to share this good news with my colleagues. The pastor shook his head, “Wishful thinking.” the gesture seemed to say.

It was the thing that all of us feared but were sure was outside the realm of possibility; the archconservative gets elected. (“Hah! Anybody but Ratzinger, or that Opus Dei guy.” I recall commenting.) “The cardinals know better,” we thought, “they realize the need for a moderate.” We of course would prefer a liberal pope, maybe the guy from Brazil, or Belgium to swing the pendulum back a bit, but a moderate would do fine for the time being. The church needs to heal and centrists bring unity.

A teenager asked me shortly before John Paul’s death “What difference does it make who the Pope is anyway?” Excellent question. Catholics are still Catholics; the mass is still the mass, regardless of who’s sitting in Peter’s Chair.

Her question reminded me though, of so many of the things I have to forget if I’m going to continue working for the church. I can’t think every time I go into a staff meeting, of the changes I’ve seen since I began in ministry. I choose not to recall the vibrant diocese I was hired into in 1987, bursting with the excitement of lay ministry and lay leadership. My first boss, Fr. Bill Trott who was sure the priest shortage was the work of the Holy Spirit “The leadership of the laity will only come to full fruit when the priests are the mystics of the community.” he would tell me. I was new enough not to understand what it meant that as I was learning the ropes of youth ministry our local hero Fr. Charlie Curran, a professor at Catholic University of America in Washington, was being removed from his teaching position under pressure from the Vatican.

I remained hopeful as I served on our Diocesan Women’s Commission and reviewed draft after draft of the ill-fated American Bishop’s Pastoral letter on Women in the Church and Society that made the not so radical statements that sexism is a sin. Too radical for this church we learned when our Bishop returned from Rome.

It would be impossible to stay if I thought of the way the Vatican clean-up crews made their way from diocese to diocese, how I’d seen friends removed from their teaching positions at seminaries, course titles changed because they sounded too liberal, dynamic theologians suddenly unwilling to offer notes of their talks because they’d been reported to Rome one too many times for raising the “wrong” questions, and hopes of forward movement in the church dashed as more and more conservatives were elevated to Bishop. I can’t stay and still think of how one of our most vibrant city parishes, on fire with the Gospel, was lost to the crack-down on liberal dioceses.

Should I stay or should I go is a question that has occured to me on a fairly regular basis, but there has always been the thought that with new leadership our hopes, my hopes, for a forward-moving church would be restored. I have been able to rationalize, in spite of my disgust with Catholic right-wing maligning of feminists, gays and lesbians, and immigrants, by hanging on to the idea that it can’t last. Right?

I don’t think I’m the only one whose been biding her time. I’ve been (fairly) quiet on the issues that Ratzinger called for silence on- the ordination of women to the priesthood, birth control to name a few- but I think that time has come to a close. I’m tired of not talking about important things- sexuality, power, who is allowed to do what and who gets to say so. I’m tired of working and worshipping in an environment of fear and mistrust. I’m NOT leaving and I’m NOT going to be quiet.

We’ve got a new pope, he’s the guy that brought us loyalty oaths and silenced countless theologians. He’s the man South African Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu called a "rigid conservative" out of step with the times, whose name has been synonymous will Roman power and authoritarian rule. Maybe he will surprise us. In the meantime, anybody need a drink?

Nora Bradbury-Haehl writes from Rochester, NY.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: amchurch; benedict; catholic; cino; pope; popebenedictxvi; ratzinger; rochester; whiner
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To: Aristotle721
I was learning the ropes of youth ministry from our local hero Fr. Charlie Curran

Crappy choice of heroes. I knew this guy was a heretic before I even converted to the RC Church.

41 posted on 04/23/2005 9:55:14 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Aristotle721

If Ratziner does what he should do, this self-absorbed modernist feminazi Catholic woman won't have to leave the Church--she'll be thrown out!


42 posted on 04/23/2005 12:05:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: AlbionGirl
It's the same attitude that left to the Corpus Christi schism several years back... the Church is expected to cater to the the whims of alleged worshippers.

It's like a kid who is whining because his mother won't let him eat ice cream for dinner - they demand that the church affirm their depravities.

As a Protestant, I can tell you that we don't want her type in our churches either. We've got too many of them too.

43 posted on 04/23/2005 12:14:15 PM PDT by jude24 (Ignorance should be painful.)
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To: Aristotle721

The liturgists, the catechists, the church architects, the academic theologians, the diocesan bureaucrats, the church music publishers, that's where the trouble lies. The worst sin most of the bishops committed was to let these folks infiltrate the church, occupy positions of influence, miseducate our children, and trivialize the liturgy.

These folks all heard Gramsci's advice about seizing the levers of power back around 1968, and that's just what they did. They take salaries paid for by church donations to corrupt the Church.


44 posted on 04/23/2005 12:15:04 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BlackElk

After a long-needed purge to take the ecclesiastical scalps of those currently running such dioceses and archdioceses as Rochester, Los Angeles, Fort Worth, Baltimore, DC, Seattle, San Francisco, Palm Beach, Johnstown-Altoona, Atlanta, and other current bastions of AmChurch and their enthusiastic clerical and lay co-conspirators, how long, O Lord, will it be before those places are cleansed so as to be reliable and safe for the practice of actual Catholicism.

*****

Right on! My first remark when I heard Ratzinger was elected Pope was, "Thank you, Lord! It's time to take out the trash, and this man will do it!!"


45 posted on 04/23/2005 12:15:38 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Aristotle721

My sympathy on your afflictions.


46 posted on 04/23/2005 12:21:13 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: VermiciousKnid

You saw it here on FR first:

"Every time a liberal squeals, an angel gets his wings!"


47 posted on 04/23/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: narses
when the priests are the mystics of the community.”

You gotta admit, this is a heckuva way to legitimize dope-smoking.

48 posted on 04/23/2005 12:41:48 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: narses

If they can't take control of the establishment they will do as much damage as they can on the way out. Can you say AmChurch schism? It is a likely last resort.


49 posted on 04/23/2005 12:43:44 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Aristotle721

I think the Episcopal Church is tailored to your wants.


50 posted on 04/23/2005 12:44:48 PM PDT by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: old and tired
my disgust with Catholic right-wing maligning of feminists, gays and lesbians, and immigrants, by hanging on to the idea that it can’t last

Sounds like this person would be more comfortable in the United Church of Christ or some similar denomination that isn't so intent on silly things like truth and the Scriptures.

51 posted on 04/23/2005 12:49:21 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Temple Owl

Hers, perhaps.

Definitely not mine :o)


52 posted on 04/23/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: Aristotle721
I’m tired of not talking about important things- sexuality, power, who is allowed to do what and who gets to say so.

This lady doesn't want a church; she wants the DNC -- could someone direct her please?

53 posted on 04/23/2005 12:57:03 PM PDT by maryz
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To: jude24

Those Corpus Christi people were out there, weren't they? They're 'chapel' is right across the street from where I work. They rent space from a Presbyterian Church. Defunct, I think, in that no services are practiced there anymore, and it was turned into a day care center. The laicized Callan (sp?) still calls it Corpus Christi tough.


54 posted on 04/23/2005 12:57:54 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (May the Lord guide your steps, Pope Benedict, and may he grant you loyal and honest advisors.)
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To: jocon307
indult (în-dùlt´) noun
Roman Catholic Church.
A faculty granted by the pope to deviate from the common law of the Church.

[Middle English, from Medieval Latin indultum, from Late Latin, concession, gift, from Latin indultum, neuter past participle of indulgêre, to be kind.]

55 posted on 04/23/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Aristotle721

Sorry, I meant her.


56 posted on 04/23/2005 1:01:13 PM PDT by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: AlbionGirl
If they rent from the Presbyterians, its from an apostate Presbyterian church, and not representative of what I, as a member of a conservative Presbyterian church, believe.

I haven't been in Rochester for long enough a period of time since I graduated high school to know what happened. I remember when Corpus Christi split - I was a senior in high school, and it was a big deal in the local paper.

Gee... Spiritus Christi. That brings back memories.

57 posted on 04/23/2005 1:01:43 PM PDT by jude24 (Ignorance should be painful.)
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To: maryz

Funny how, in the end, it all comes down to sex?


58 posted on 04/23/2005 1:03:16 PM PDT by jude24 (Ignorance should be painful.)
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To: Aristotle721

The church does a major change every few centuries or so. I don't know why these people expect a 180 on their impulse.


59 posted on 04/23/2005 1:05:47 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: jude24
Well, that and power

A satire posted in another thread referred to a "Professor of Applied Autolatry" -- seems to sum up a lot of this!

60 posted on 04/23/2005 1:12:41 PM PDT by maryz
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