And Now... Idiots [commentary on stupid attack on the Pope]

Midwest Conservative Journal ^ | 4/21/2005 | Christopher Johnson

[sionnsar]

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[SAMS]

"Why did your church never excommunicate Hitler?"

Maybe because Hitler was not a Catholic.

[Aussie Dasher]

Dear, dear me. What a complete nutter!

[xJones]

Hitler was born and raised in a Catholic-in-name-only family. His father was his mother's half-uncle, if you can figure that inbreeding out. Hitler had no religious faith, except a mystical one in his own destiny. He wasn't a Catholic, he just grew up in a Catholic area, and he certainly never attended a Mass in all his adulthood. Any exposure he had to the Catholic Church couldn't reach him.

It's curious, Stalin was 9 years older than Hitler, and his mother had him placed in an Orthodox Christian seminary. But Stalin couldn't be reached either, and was no more interested in the Orthodox Christian faith than Hitler ever was in the Catholic Christian faith.

[SAMS]

Wasn't Hitlers mother of Jewish descent? And, according to Jewish law, wouldn't that make her children Jewish?

[xJones]

Wasn't Hitlers mother of Jewish descent? And, according to Jewish law, wouldn't that make her children Jewish?

Are you crazy? Hitler's mother was an Austrian and she certainly wasn't a Jewish Austrian. Read some history, it helps...

[SAMS]

I have done some reading, and it seems there are quite a few conflicting views on this matter. Some sources say it was his father (born illegitimate)who was Jewish, others say it was his mother. And other still say Hitler's parents were cousins.

"Read some history, it helps..." and BTW, there is really no reason to be rude.

[jocon307]

"...Matt Fox has not only lost the argument but the argument is currently kicking Matt's ass."

LOL! that's a good one. I'm going to use that some day!

[stan_sipple]

Pope Benedict should have belonged to the KKK instead of Hitler Youth, eg Robert Byrd and supreme Court justice Hugo Black, then MSM would give him a pass

[maryz]

I had to click on this to see precisely which stupid attack was under discussion -- and this one really does take the cake!

Matthew Fox gives barking moonbats a bad name!

[OpusatFR]

"8:5 And when he was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion1, beseeching him2,

8:6 and saying, Lord, my servant lieth in the house sick of the palsy, grievously tormented18:7 And he saith unto him, I will come and heal him

8:8 And the centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof1; but only say the word, and my servant shall be healed2.

8:10 And when Jesus heard it, he marvelled1, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel2.

St. Matthew (Douay)

If Jesus could look upon the centurion who was certainly an officer with soldiers under his command whose Roman Procurator had a part in Christ's crucifixion, and marvel at the man's faith,

who

is Matthew Fox to condemn a man who was a teenage footsoldier who fled his army?

[AnAmericanMother]

It's Hitler's father's side where the speculation originated.

His daddy's mother wasn't married when she gave birth. Her name was Schicklgruber (hence the derisive references to Adolf as "old Schicklgruber") and she later married a man named Heidler or Hitler . . . but Alois (Hitler's dad) didn't change his name to Heidler (or Hitler) until he was almost 40 years old.

There are long standing rumors that Maria Schiklgruber was working in a Jewish household when she got pregnant by the father or a son of the house . . . no documentary support but lots of questions. Our good friend Cecil Adams of The Straight Dope as usual has rounded up the info on this. I have always found Adams (or Ed Zotti if you prefer) to be surprisingly accurate (and not just for a column in an alternative newspaper - he has good researchers.)

[AnAmericanMother]

Wow, this guy is ready for the dudes with the white coats and butterfly nets . . .

Nothing quite so vicious against Catholics as an ex-Catholic.

[jboot]

Hitler had a brief flirtation with the church when his family moved to Linz. He was even an altar boy and gushed to his friends about someday entering the priesthood. However, he quickly lost interest when he entered his teens.

There is no evidence that he attended mass (or even merely entered a church) after his childhood. By the time he entered power he retained no vestige of Christianity. The eulogy that he gave for the late president Von Hindenburg in 1933 was unabashedly pagan, filled with references to the Norse pantheon and culminating with a thunderuous peroration: "Enter, thou great warrior, into Valhalla!" The Lutheran pastors in attendance were aghast.

[jboot]

Don't forget, Georg Heidler was probably Miss Schicklgruber's first cousin. What an inbred mess that family tree is!

[AnAmericanMother]

As my great-aunt would sniff, "NOT from a good family!"

(whistle Colonel Bogey March here . . . ) < g >

[AnAmericanMother]

He was indeed unabashedly pagan - tried to start a new "German religion" based on the Norse gods (as interpreted by Wagner) and national egotism. He hated the Catholic church -- saw it as a rival -- much of Pius XII's maneuvering while Secretary of State for his predecessor was in an attempt to protect Catholic parishioners and priests in Germany from persecution. Didn't always work - a lot of priests were murdered or died in concentration camps.

Hitler also discussed assassinating or kidnapping Pius XII, but was talked out of it by the general in charge of Rome.

[redgolum]

Someone should up Matt's Zoloft prescription, or just buy the man a bottle of Jack Daniel's and tell him to chill.

I mean I have been accused of having to much tin foil around my head, but this guy beats me by a mile!