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And Now... Idiots [commentary on stupid attack on the Pope]
Midwest Conservative Journal ^ | 4/21/2005 | Christopher Johnson

Posted on 04/21/2005 11:17:55 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: sionnsar
So, the big questionis:

Who's crazier: Matthew Fox or Mark Morford?

21 posted on 04/22/2005 6:23:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sionnsar
Says here that Matt's on the staff of Grace Cathedral of San Francisco which is in the Episcopal Diocese of California. The Bishop out there is William Swing.

Would a complaint to Bishop Swing actually do something, or would it be a waste of perfectly good electrons? Something tells me waste of electrons is probably closer.

22 posted on 04/22/2005 6:30:36 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: AnAmericanMother
He hated the Catholic church

There is a long paragraph in Trevor-Roper's "Hitler's Table Talk" in which Hitler outlined his future plans for the church (he made no real distinction between Catholic and Protestant).

First, he desired toleration in the short term in order to placate the people, who were still weak and infested with "jewish" blood. He was very proud that he had overruled his flunkies on this point (Goebbles especially wanted to destroy the church, probably because they had impeded his sexual escapades). At least as long as there was a war on, Hitler felt that the church was a useful "moderator" of the rabble.

Second, the obstinate and pacifist clergy would be quietly purged (which more or less came to pass).

Lastly, when the war was over, lebensraum won in the east and the Master Race ascendent, the churches would be liquidated. After all, the New German Man had no nead for weak "jewish" institutions. The church and the jews were always intertwined in the mind of Hitler.

23 posted on 04/22/2005 7:28:56 AM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: sionnsar

At least this nutcase had the intellectual honesty to leave the Catholic Church, the teachings of which he obviously does not believe.


24 posted on 04/22/2005 7:38:42 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: sionnsar
Whatever, sunshine.

Priceless!

25 posted on 04/22/2005 7:56:21 AM PDT by AlbionGirl (May the Lord guide your steps, Pope Benedict, and may he grant you loyal and honest advisors.)
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To: redgolum
Someone should up Matt's Zoloft prescription

I think this is a case for an exorcist, not a pharmacist.

26 posted on 04/22/2005 8:18:56 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Who's crazier: Matthew Fox or Mark Morford?

Or randy Andy.

27 posted on 04/22/2005 8:23:35 AM PDT by conservonator (Lord, bless Your servant Benedict XVI)
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To: sionnsar
Says here that Matt's on the staff of Grace Cathedral of San Francisco which is in the Episcopal Diocese of California.

In keeping with the practice of John Paul II, Benedict might consider a formal apology on behalf of the Catholic Church to the Episcopalians for inflicting the madness that is Matthew Fox on them. "Sorry, but he got away from us."

28 posted on 04/22/2005 11:47:02 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: sionnsar
A New Reformation can happen swiftly. It is already underway. The Internet can help feed it. The myths that have kept the Roman Catholic Church afloat for 1800 years have been washed away. (The historical Jesus never said: "Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church." That came later.) Maybe the new version of Christianity need not be Peter based (Roman Catholicism) or Paul based (the Protestant option) but Mary Magdalene based. Any takers?

So where's Henry VIII to chop off a head when you really need him?

Fox is actually a sad little man.

29 posted on 04/22/2005 11:54:15 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: siunevada
"Sorry, but he got away from us."

LOL!

30 posted on 04/22/2005 12:31:10 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: jboot
The eulogy that he gave for the late president Von Hindenburg in 1933 was unabashedly pagan, filled with references to the Norse pantheon and culminating with a thunderuous peroration: "Enter, thou great warrior, into Valhalla!" The Lutheran pastors in attendance were aghast.

That same eulogy today would probably give the anti Catholic left a collective woody.

31 posted on 04/22/2005 12:42:51 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: CFC__VRWC

That whole San Francisco Diocese is corrupt. Swing is an arch-heretic & the whole of the church has been taken over by limp-wristed harpies screeching about buggery being next to godliness, & liberals so far left they're in danger of falling off the World.

I see & hear people like Swing & Louie Crew & good ol' Matt, & a single thought comes to mind. What a lovely bonfire they'd make!


32 posted on 04/22/2005 12:56:22 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: sionnsar
Is this the same guy asking the questions?

Matthew Timothy Fox

Matthew Fox was born on December 21, 1940, entered the Dominicans in 1960, and was ordained a priest in 1967. In 1970 he received a doctorate, summa cum laude, from the Institut Catholique (Paris) in Medieval theology.

His first popular book on prayer, On Becoming a Musical, Mystical Bear (1972), created the impetus which eventually led to his establishing the Institute for Culture and Creation Spirituality (ICCS) in 1977 at Mundelein College, a small Catholic women’s college in Chicago. He moved the ICCS to Holy Names College, another small Catholic college in Oakland, California in 1983, where it has remained to the present day.

The ICCS teaching staff includes Starhawk the witch (alias Miriam Simos); Buck Ghost Horse, a shaman (mystic guide healer); Luish Teish, a Yoruba (West African) voodoo priestess; and Robert Frager, representing Sufism (Islamic mysticism). Typical of New Age approaches to spirituality, some psychology is thrown in: John Giannini, a Jungian analyst, and Jean Lanier, a Gestalt therapist. Brian Swimme is the resident cosmologist, and “geologian” (i.e., exponent of environmental wisdom) Fr. (Father) Thomas Berry teaches on occasion.

Fox established Bear and Company to publish creation spirituality books, such as Earth Ascending, by Jose Arguelles, originator of the 1987 “Harmonic Convergence,” and Medicine Cards: The Discovery of Power through the Ways of Animals, complete with book and “medicine shield” cards. Later he founded Creation, a magazine sponsored by the Friends of Creation Spirituality, Inc., whose president and editor-in-chief is Fox. Creation describes itself as “deeply ecumenical, deeply cosmological, deeply practical and deeply alternative.” A recent issue portrays a nude Jesus Christ, seated in the yoga lotus position, with antlers on His head (July/August, 1991). Another shows the “Qetzalcoatl Christ,” with the Lord’s face in a picture of Qetzalcoatl, the Aztec Plumed Serpent deity (May/June, 1992).

33 posted on 04/22/2005 1:00:57 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: sionnsar; redgolum; TonyRo76
Bishop Swing is the head of the UN's United Religions, also known as the New World Religion, which is designed to be the super-state religion of the New World Order, and to replace Christianity, Judaism, and other historic religions. He's probably totally cool with Matthew Fox, whose "mother-father" god is absolutely in synch with the New World Religion. So complaining to Swing about Matt will do no good at all.

Our Triune God--the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit--is real Love, who calls us to be one with and in him. (Read Jesus' farewell address from the Gospel according to John.) The "mother-father" of the international-fascist New World Religion is an illusion of Satan that calls us to our destruction.

And I believe that the architects of the New World Religion have not taken radical islam into account. Thier attempts to destroy Christianity are more likely to lead to islamist world conquest than to a world dominated by the insipid, syncretist New World Religion. I say no thank you to either alternative!!!

34 posted on 04/25/2005 8:40:37 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: torqemada
I see & hear people like Swing & Louie Crew & good ol' Matt, & a single thought comes to mind. What a lovely bonfire they'd make!

I'd settle for a good lightning bolt strike. Or the earth swallowing them up.

And with GC2006 coming up in a year, get ready, the media will trot them out led in procession by Vicky Gene (who believes that God's love is like warm, melted butter oozing all over him). Popcorn, anyone?

35 posted on 04/25/2005 8:48:43 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Honorary Serb

Thanks! I'd forgotten about "United Religions"...


36 posted on 04/26/2005 4:02:38 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Honorary Serb; sionnsar; TonyRo76
The United Religions movement is one of the reasons that the LCMS is very cautious about ecumenical talks. There can be no union with un and anti Christian religions.
37 posted on 04/26/2005 6:16:00 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Not all ecumenical talks or agreements are bad. They require discernment. LCMS dialogue with the Orthodox is good, but praying the first sura of the Quran (which includes hidden curses against Chrstians and Jews) with muslims, or paticipating in the "United Religions" with Wiccans and apostate Episcopalians is bad!!!


38 posted on 04/26/2005 8:01:01 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb
Not all ecumenical talks or agreements are bad.

Don't let some of the neo uber conservatives here that! I get blasted every once in a while over being to comfortable with Catholics and Orthodox.

I do agree though. True ecumenical talks are good and helpful. To often though they become photo ops.

39 posted on 04/26/2005 8:05:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Carolina
......Vicky Gene (who believes that God's love is like warm, melted butter oozing all over him).....

Vicky Gene should read my post #34 above on the REAL nature of God's love, including looking up the scripture reference and meditating on that scripture. (This is a good practice for all of us during the Easter season, when Jesus' farewell address is read in the Western churches.)

Ah, but in "Selfish Gene" Robinson's case, that exercise would do no good, I'm afraid. He needs to hear God's judgement on false priests instead!!!!

40 posted on 04/26/2005 8:06:08 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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