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(LIVE THREAD) The Papal Conclave, Interregnum, Cardinals, Conclave Facts, Prayer and other links
EWTN.com ^ | 04-16-05 | EWTN.com

Posted on 04/16/2005 9:08:24 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: RepubMommy

'If they ain't no smoke, then we ain't spoke..."


501 posted on 04/18/2005 11:19:56 AM PDT by mikrofon (115 is a Cardinal number)
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To: TC Rider

Someone just emailed me this..Imagine if the new Pope comes out on the balcony, gives his blessing, and in the new era of vatican openness, a reporter asks him.."Father, you've just been elected Pope, what are your going to do now?"..and the Pope replies..."I'm going to Disneyworld"


502 posted on 04/18/2005 11:20:53 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: JohnnyZ

>> So you wouldn't go for an Irish Pope, eh? <<

Lemme think: Mahony, O'Malley, ... Hell no!


503 posted on 04/18/2005 11:21:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Right.
Still have to wonder why those particular onlookers bothered to show up.


504 posted on 04/18/2005 11:21:16 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Link to Story Black Smoke Signifies First Vote On New Pope

Black smoke billowed from the chimney above the Sistine Chapel just after 1 p.m. CDT Monday, signifying that cardinals had taken a first vote on a new pope.

The black smoke means no candidate received the two-thirds majority required for election.The 115 cardinals who will elect the next pope began their secret session earlier Monday in the Sistine Chapel.

The cardinals chanted the Litany of the Saints during a solemn procession from the Apostolic Palace to the chapel earlier Monday.

One of the likely candidates to become the next pope led Mass at the Vatican Monday and asked God for a new leader "who guides us to knowledge in Christ." In his homily, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger cautioned against turning from religious truths.

One French cardinal says he slept well Sunday night, and his "ideas are clear."

Heading into the morning Mass that preceded the start of the conclave, the cardinal said he understands the seriousness of the task ahead and that now, "the Holy Spirit will do the rest."

Thousands of pilgrims and tourists converged on St. Peter's Square to watch the chapel chimney for the white smoke that will tell the world the church's 265th pontiff has been elected.

At least 77 votes, from two-thirds of the 115 voting cardinals, are needed to elect a pontiff during initial balloting, but under rules updated in 1996 by the late Pope John Paul II, it could shrink to a simple majority after 30 votes have been taken.

More than half of the voting cardinals are from Europe, 20 are from Latin America and eleven are from the United States.

505 posted on 04/18/2005 11:22:45 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Rise, let us be on our way" - Pope John Paul, II (noted in Ratzinger's Homily@ PJPII's Requiem ))
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To: onyx

I understand your concern though.


506 posted on 04/18/2005 11:23:05 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: murphE
>>>>>> Truth is the only thing worth arguing about.

Agreed.

>>>>>> You go with Mother Teresa if you want, when what they say conflicts, I'll go with Our Lord.

You are right, if there is indeed a conflict. And for some folks, I think you are right about indifferentism. But I don't think you're right about Mother Teresa. For her, I think it was a matter of different tactics reaching the same end. Certainly, she saw herself as a missionary, and she was responsible for many conversions.

As I said, personal experience helped bring me to this position. Having been targeted for "missionary outreach" by fundamentalists on several occasions, I came away unimpressed, to say the least.

507 posted on 04/18/2005 11:25:40 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: RepubMommy
OK...keeping in the theme here....

If there's white smoke - here comes the Pope!

508 posted on 04/18/2005 11:26:39 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Rise, let us be on our way" - Pope John Paul, II (noted in Ratzinger's Homily@ PJPII's Requiem ))
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To: onyx
Dialog implies the equality of the dignity of the individuals taking part -- not the equality of their various beliefs and practices

You respect someone's dignity when you tell them the truth. True charity desires the salvation of men, true charity speaks the truth and corrects error.

Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God hath raised from the dead, even by him this man standeth here before you whole.

This is the stone which was rejected by you the builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved. Acts of the Apostles 4:10-12


509 posted on 04/18/2005 11:27:20 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Is there some sort of "schedule" we can be looking for? I heard they vote four times tomorrow........so is there a certain time we should be listening?


510 posted on 04/18/2005 11:27:37 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Feh. I was away on a trouble call so I didn't get to see the black smoke go up. Granted it's a non-decision but it would have been cool to see.

Does anyone have the URL to the CBS cam that was posted so ways back in the thread? The link on thier website doesn't actually open anything other than a playlist. I clicked on one here earlier that was a nice close-up of the chimney.

511 posted on 04/18/2005 11:27:53 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Canonize Pope John Paul the Great as patron Saint of the unborn.)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

Wow, lots of typos in my last post. Please excuse them.


512 posted on 04/18/2005 11:28:52 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Canonize Pope John Paul the Great as patron Saint of the unborn.)
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To: Howlin

I thought they were voting two times, Noon and 7pm Rome time. They probably meet more than twice.


513 posted on 04/18/2005 11:29:09 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Thorin
But I don't think you're right about Mother Teresa.

I don't know for a fact that that is an accurate quote of Mother Teresa's, from what I understand, it has been disputed. It was posted here by someone else.

514 posted on 04/18/2005 11:29:25 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

Didn't miss much. No pope today.


515 posted on 04/18/2005 11:29:52 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh I know, but it just would have been cool to see the smoke, you know? No matter, I'll try and catch it tomorrow.


516 posted on 04/18/2005 11:30:35 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Canonize Pope John Paul the Great as patron Saint of the unborn.)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

I am sure they will show the smoke a gazillion times on cable news...so have at it.


517 posted on 04/18/2005 11:32:00 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

Black smoke rises from the chimney above the Sistine Chapel in the Vatican, indicating no decision has been made after the first vote for a new pope, April 18, 2005. The 115 cardinals began the papal conclave on Monday evening to elect a new pope following the death of Pope John Paul II. (Jerry Lampen/Reuters)
518 posted on 04/18/2005 11:34:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: TattooedUSAFConservative

They keep showing it every 5 minutes on FNC.


519 posted on 04/18/2005 11:36:06 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: dangus
Lemme think: Mahony, O'Malley, ... Hell no!

What about Cormac?

520 posted on 04/18/2005 11:42:42 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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