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Catholic Liturgy - Papal Funerals and the Sede Vacante
Zenit News Agency ^ | April 13, 2005 | Father Edward McNamara

Posted on 04/14/2005 6:01:36 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, APRIL 12, 2005 (Zenit.org).- ZENIT's liturgical columnist, Father Edward McNamara, fielded more questions regarding the passing of John Paul II.

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Many questions have still poured in regarding the liturgical specifics of papal funerals and the period of "Sede Vacante."

An Australian liturgical scholar wrote regarding the use of red vestments: "With respect to Fr McNamara's comments on the red vestments of the pope [see April 7], red is worn because the pope is the vicar of Peter who was a martyr."

I believe this comment complements rather than contradicts my earlier answer regarding the pope's use of red in celebrating funerals.

I specifically stated that red was the color of the apostles and this is so because all, except St. John, died as martyrs and their feasts are celebrated in red.

It is specifically true of St. Peter and this would explain the traditional use of red for papal funerals and, except when the liturgy requires another color, for the nine days of celebrations in suffrage held at St. Peter's beginning with his funeral Mass.

I would point out that the pope is successor to Peter, not his vicar. The pope is the vicar of Christ.

Some questioners harbored doubts regarding the correctness of some procedures carried out during these days in various countries.

A Hungarian reader asked if it was correct for a priest to celebrate in black vestments on Sunday, April 3.

Since this day was within the octave of Easter it was incorrect, as the liturgy of the day has precedence over the requiem Mass.

Indeed, the Mass celebrated for the Pope this same day by Cardinal Angelo Sodano in St. Peter's Square followed the Sunday liturgy in white vestments. The following day was the Annunciation and so the first day at which a requiem Mass, or a votive divine office of the dead, was possible, was Tuesday, April 5.

Another correspondent remained puzzled by a ceremony during a requiem Mass for the Holy Father in which an empty coffin was blessed and incensed.

This practice used to be common in some countries for requiems before the Second Vatican Council, but is no longer permitted. The introduction to the "Ordo Exequiarum," No. 10, allows the rites of sprinkling and incensing to be performed only in the presence of the mortal remains.

Another reader asked why a pall was not used at the funeral Mass for John Paul II. The Holy Father asked that his funeral follow the dispositions first laid down by Pope Paul VI as well as those which he himself approved in the new order for papal funerals.

Both Popes were addicted to simplicity and asked that the coffin used in the funeral be the plain cypress wood box, placed at ground level, and with the open Book of the Gospels placed upon it.

Several readers asked regarding prayers for the Pope, especially those for his intentions related to gaining a plenary indulgence.

During these days most prayers directly for the Holy Father, such as those in the Prayers of the Faithful, or intercessions of the Divine office, are usually omitted.

With respect to plenary indulgences, it is certainly not the Church's intention to make them unavailable during the interregnum. Since God is not bound to time, I suggest praying the usual prayers and let him take care of the rest.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; funerals; liturgy; pope; sedevacante; vestments

1 posted on 04/14/2005 6:01:40 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/14/2005 6:02:34 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: seamole
I've now heard so many things inserted in place of "N. our Pope" in the Eucharistic Prayer

I've just heard it omitted altogether. The priest has just gone ahead and mentioned our Bishop's name.
4 posted on 04/14/2005 8:29:36 AM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: seamole

Our priest explained that upon the death of a Pope, that his name is no longer mentioned in the prayers (for the clergy) at that point.

Instead it is inserted later when praying for those who have died, especially our Pope, John Paul II,.

I think it is difficult for priests to make this change because these prayers are so much a matter of habit. (I know our priest slipped up once, and continues to pause there before just praying for our biship,.............


5 posted on 04/14/2005 8:36:30 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: hispanichoosier

Ditto here.


6 posted on 04/14/2005 8:42:30 AM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2 (I came looking for you, and now you come looking for me. I thank you." Pope John Paul II)
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To: seamole; NYer
At today's Mass I heard something striking -- "for Our Holy Father, John Paul II, of memory eternal, and for his successor..."

Of all the bizarre things I have heard, it was nice to hear this dear old priest say something tinged with the Eastern rites of the Church.

8 posted on 04/14/2005 10:00:42 AM PDT by Siobhan (We must give our all for the Civilisation of Life. -- Mary Ann Glendon)
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To: NYer
New sedevacantist, here.

I can't hold it in any more. That's it! I have to come out.

Now I want the whole world to know.

I'm sedevacantist-and proud of it!!

9 posted on 04/14/2005 10:09:34 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
New sedevacantist, here.

Lol!

10 posted on 04/14/2005 10:21:14 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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