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Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?
Vivificat! - A Catholic Blog of Commentary and Opinion ^ | 7 April 2005 | Teófilo

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by Teófilo

This Observant Catholic says: maybe

Much of the support to the idea of married Catholic priests comes from liberal reformers, who often couch it in their language, that is to say, in concepts foreign to Catholic theology, and also link it to another issue, "women's ordination" so-called. Put the two ideas into the same sentence and you see how both ideas sound so repulsive to Observant Catholics' ears.

Pope John Paul II as a young priest-who says that celibate priests can't related to the rest of us?This doesn't need to be this way. They idea of ordaining married men to the priesthood can be defended on orthodox, conservative, and traditional grounds. My thesis is that a married priesthood would not be a doctrinal innovation, but simply the restoration of a discipline that was normative for the first 1,000 years of history in the Western, Latin Church—although we need to acknowledge that the discipline of priestly celibacy became ascendant in the 5th century, from the time of Pope St. Gregory the Great, who brought a monastic outlook to the papacy of his time, onwards. Five centuries later, another saintly Pope named Gregory (pp.VII), promulgated that celibacy was to be the mandatory disciplinary norm for all the priests of the Latin Church.

Before we attempt an analysis of the arguments set in favor of a married clergy, we need to set forth the following two principles:

The Holy Spirit guides Salvation History. He's also the soul of the Church, the life-giving, animating principle of the Body of Christ. Nothing happens in the history of the Church without a purpose, nor outside of God's will. If the Spirit guided the Western Church to establish a discipline of celibacy for all priestly tiers in the Western Church, and that discipline has lasted 1,400 years, well, we should hold to that fact as the point of departure for any conversation on this issue, and assign it all the weight it rightly deserves.

The second principle flows from what we mean when we say "ordaining married men to the Catholic priesthood." It means just that. The priesthood under this discipline will continue to be restricted to men,in conformity with 2,000 years of Catholic Tradition and, most recently, the binding authoritative teaching of Pope John Paul the Great, given in his 1994 Apostolic Letter, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis:

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

It also means ordaining married men; it doesn't mean that already ordained men would be allowed to marry and still permitted to minister. Already ordained priests seeking marriage would still have to be dispensed from their vows and laicized.

Many of the so-called reformers would find such strictures intolerable, for they do not fit with the pastoral model they have in mind for the Church and that's the Protestant Parsonage. Most observant Catholics opposed to the idea of ordaining married men to the priesthood also believe that this is the only model available to follow and therefore, they reject it—and rightly so. I also reject the Protestant Parsonage as a model for the Catholic one, and I say that with all due respect to all those successful Protestant ministerial couples out there who have made it work, often under dire circumstances in the mission field or while undergoing persecution for the cause of Christ.

I set aside the Protestant model because is not Catholic and I'm only willing to admit Catholic solutions to Catholic problems—in this case, the scarcity of priests in developed countries for which ordaining worthy married men is but one solution. As a Catholic theologian, I must look to the fullness of revelation as handed down solely to the Catholic Church since her beginning, for trustworthy guidance on this very important issue.

Catholic Tradition has preserved such a model of married priests and families, and it is the one we can observe today in the Eastern Churches, both the ones in communion with Rome and the ones that are not. They offer us a perfect model that is both historical, practical, steeped in Holy Tradition and therefore, thoroughly Catholic. The Eastern model is the one the Western Church should adopt if and when the Magisterium decides to restore the discipline of a married clergy to the Latin Church.

I have observed first hand that a married priest can minister to his flock and remain completely open to its needs, in all the demands that the Lord imposes upon him, be it the needs of the flock or the needs of its own family; I have seen holiness and wholesomeness flowing in these priestly families and it is inspiring to behold.

Now, do these couples "have it easy"? Most certainly not. These couples live under a social microscope and the need to send boundaries between service and love to others and service and love to their family lay unimaginable pressures on these servants of God. The fact that they achieve it and persevere every day, as well as their persistence in liturgical and private prayer, fasting, and mortification, demonstrates beyond all doubt God's blessings upon these unions. That this occurs within a traditional Catholic context is encouraging. The fact that in these marriages man, in his fullness—male and female—becomes a partner with Christ in the redemption of the world should not scandalize anyone among the Catholic faithful, but rather inspire them to pursue their salvation with due diligence.

Ordaining married men is not a messianic panacea that will heal all the ills of the Church in developed countries, for the vocation deficit ailing the Church today has but little to do with the life of chosen celibacy the priesthood now demands, and everything to do with the kind of culture we live in. Permanent Deacons—the ranks of men from which the first batch of married priests is likely to come—should feel any pressure to abandon their initial vocation; being a Permanent Deacon is a perfectly fine vocation and blessed by the Lord.

Enthusiasts of ordaining married men to the priesthood should stand under the cold shower of reality and the reality we live here in the United States is that our materialistic culture is not conducive to Catholic religious vocations of any kind, whether married or celibate. I'm not too optimistic that hordes of married men will rush to become priests if the discipline of married priesthood is ever restored in the Western Church.

If a married priesthood following the Eastern Christian model is to be restored in the Latin Church, pastors (i.e. bishops) should exercise extreme caution as to whom they choose for this restored ministry. For we will no longer be talking about one vocation, but two, the husband's and the wife's and maybe even the children's. I humbly suggest the following guidelines to its restoration and for the testing of the worthiest candidates:

Then, there's the matter of need. Is the need to ordain married men real? It is true that ordaining men will provide limited relief to the wide and variegated spiritual needs of the Catholic faithful, and the problem of vocations lies in the modern materialist culture. Yet, the need for priests is now critical throughout the developed world and we can't wait to fix the problem with the culture. Ordaining worthy married men might one way to go. In fact, they may be a catalyst for even more vocations, both to the married and celibate priesthood.

Is now the time to admit married men into the priesthood? This is a matter of spiritual discernment, of being alert to the promptings of the Spirit and judging that whatever is enacted is the will of the Spirit. That's not my role. My role is to point out a need and a possible solution in accordance to the Deposit of Revelation—Scripture and Tradition.

In the 500 years between Pope St. Gregory I and St. Gregory VII, the Magisterium decided that a celibate priesthood better served the Church; Pope John Paul the Great judged that it wasn't time yet to restore the ancient discipline of the Church. The next Holy Father may decide that it is time to restore the ancient discipline, or he may not, and that's fine too. We should all be happy and at peace and always remember that our agenda, our schedule, is not the Spirit's. The Catholic Church will go where the Spirit blows, when the Spirit blows, and at no other time and often, in spite of ourselves.

- Read "Can a priest be a husband?" from Time Magazine

- Read Split in push for married priests, from Australia's Fairfax Digital

- Read What's the deal about legally married priests? at EWTN.

The following links are from the Married Priest Website. Vivificat! doesn't necessarily support everything they say, and may in fact oppose some of the things they say. In other words, this is not a blanket endorsement of that site's content. I link to it because they have the documents I want my readers to study. Caveat emptor.

- Read the Document Outlining the Pastoral Provision issued by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on July 22, 1980 Prot. N. 66/77

- Read the English Catholic Bishops' Statutes for the Admission of Married Former Anglican Clergymen into the Catholic Church

- Read the Provisions of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches Related to Married Clergy from the Code of Canon Law for Oriental Churches.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
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To: cyborg

Sorry, didn't realize you were a girl--or is that a pic of you, Ariel?


81 posted on 04/07/2005 8:12:26 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: B Knotts
Sorry 'bout the date. Doesn't change the arguement.
Technically, that feudal holdings don't belong to the feudal lord; they belong the king. Nevertheless, the lord's son inherits it, or else there is trouble. The same thing applied to the holdings of the Roman Church. In many ways it was another feudal kingdom, just more geographically dispersed.

Personally, I think priests SHOULD be married. But what do I know - I'm just a Protestant.
82 posted on 04/07/2005 8:22:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: pa mom
What is so wrong with sex within marriage that makes God require priests to forgo it?

God doesn't require it.

Those who insist that God requires it make God look very confused:

He calls married men to be priests in the Eastern Rite, but only single men in the Latin Rite.

Oh, and He calls some Protestant married men to the priesthood in the Latin Rite after they convert, but He doesn't call any Catholic married men to the priesthood in the Latin Rite.

Mandatory celibacy is a Church discipline and can be changed at any time.

83 posted on 04/07/2005 8:36:52 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Teófilo

**Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?**

No


84 posted on 04/07/2005 8:37:12 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
**Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?**

No

Amen.

85 posted on 04/07/2005 8:38:33 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: Teófilo
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The gift of Priestly celibacy as a sign of the charity of Christ, by Mother Teresa of Calcutta
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John Paul II Hails "Inestimable Value" of Priestly Celibacy
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5 Arguments Against (Catholic) Priestly Celibacy and How to Refute Them
Why A Married Priesthood Won't Remedy the Priest Shortage

New Vatican Document on Homosexuality and the Priesthood Coming Before Fall 2005
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Alternative Priests´ Council Hits Back on Mandatory Celibacy
Married Priests? The English Experience

Saying Yes to God: a Look into Vocations
New Vatican Document to Eliminate 1961 Papal Ban on Ordaining Homosexuals
Saying Yes to God: a Look into Vocations

Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?

86 posted on 04/07/2005 8:39:00 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: chgomac
Are you saying that women should be allowed to distribute Communion only if extraordinary circumstances were present?

I'm saying that any layman (man or woman) is allowed to distribute Communion only if extraordinary circumstances are present.

This has been repeatedly noted by the Curia, but is routinely ignored, especially in the U.S.

Most recently, it was strongly reiterated in Redemptionis Sacramentum.

[88.] The faithful should normally receive sacramental Communion of the Eucharist during Mass itself, at the moment laid down by the rite of celebration, that is to say, just after the Priest celebrant's Communion.[172] It is the Priest celebrant's responsibility to minister Communion, perhaps assisted by other Priests or Deacons; and he should not resume the Mass until after the Communion of the faithful is concluded. Only when there is a necessity may extraordinary ministers assist the Priest celebrant in accordance with the norm of law.[173]

[151.] Only out of true necessity is there to be recourse to the assistance of extraordinary ministers in the celebration of the Liturgy. Such recourse is not intended for the sake of a fuller participation of the laity but rather, by its very nature, is supplementary and provisional.[252] Furthermore, when recourse is had out of necessity to the functions of extraordinary ministers, special urgent prayers of intercession should be multiplied that the Lord may soon send a Priest for the service of the community and raise up an abundance of vocations to sacred Orders.[253]

[158.] Indeed, the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion may administer Communion only when the Priest and Deacon are lacking, when the Priest is prevented by weakness or advanced age or some other genuine reason, or when the number of faithful coming to Communion is so great that the very celebration of Mass would be unduly prolonged.[259] This, however, is to be understood in such a way that a brief prolongation, considering the circumstances and culture of the place, is not at all a sufficient reason.

87 posted on 04/07/2005 9:06:09 AM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: newgeezer

ping


88 posted on 04/07/2005 9:07:19 AM PDT by biblewonk ("well I was told that I could listen to the radio as long as I kept it at a reasonable volume and...)
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To: sinkspur
The FSSP won't allow their priests to concelebrate with the bishop or other priests for fear of being "contaminated" by the Novus Ordo.

I don't think this is accurate. Wasn't there a big stink over this issue being forced on the FSSP a while back?

Regardless, even if true, it is not a legitimate reason to suppress the order, as long as they regard the Missa Normativa as valid.

89 posted on 04/07/2005 9:16:16 AM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: sinkspur

Thanks. I'm a historian, so naturally look at things from that perspective. I'm also trying to delve more deeply in to my Catholic faith, so any and all info is helpful.

I hate to sound like Dan Brown, but there does seem to be an awful lot of anti-female bias historically in the Church (as elsewhere). How much of the Church's teachings (as the oldest Christian church) come from historical biases and cultural norms of previous eras versus actual scripture? That's rhetorical, not looking to put you on the spot!


90 posted on 04/07/2005 9:17:53 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: cyborg
I don't want homos OR married priests in the Church. I could care less what they think especially since their sexual lust is what is motivating them

By that standard only eunuchs should be priests. All physically normal males have a very powerful sexual impulse. All homo priests are constantly tempted to go for the boys, and all abstinent hetero priests are constantly tempted to go for the young women; there is no third option. The LEAST lustful priest would be the one who has a lawful outlet for his sex drive, namely, marriage.

Besides, look at history: ordaining married priests worked just fine for 1000 years.

92 posted on 04/07/2005 9:30:38 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: pa mom
It did it again. The word keeps getting deleted from my posts!

Huh?
93 posted on 04/07/2005 9:32:14 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: biblewonk

Oh, man. More evidence to convince me that the Pharisees' rules and regs must have paled in comparison.


94 posted on 04/07/2005 9:36:41 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: pa mom; sinkspur; B Knotts
What is so wrong with sex within marriage that makes God require priests to forgo it?

He doesn't. According to SCRIPTURE, sex is REQUIRED for married couples. "Do not deny each other...", etc. (1st Corinth 7.) No exception is made for priests.

95 posted on 04/07/2005 9:38:52 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: newgeezer; biblewonk
That's really nice. Come on to a Catholic thread and call us "Pharisees."

Would you appreciate it if we Catholics came on to Protestant threads and called you "heretics," or something similar?

96 posted on 04/07/2005 9:39:29 AM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: Rytwyng; cyborg
By that standard only eunuchs should be priests.

Exactly, Our Lord's standard.

"For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it."
Matthew 19.12

97 posted on 04/07/2005 9:41:27 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: BJClinton

For some reason the word "sex", though typed in, did not appear when posted!


99 posted on 04/07/2005 9:43:00 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: pa mom

I know, I just wanted to put a pentagram in there to mess with ya!


100 posted on 04/07/2005 9:44:06 AM PDT by BJClinton
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