keeps getting deleted from my posts!Huh?
Posted on 04/07/2005 5:00:46 AM PDT by Teófilo
Sorry, didn't realize you were a girl--or is that a pic of you, Ariel?
God doesn't require it.
Those who insist that God requires it make God look very confused:
He calls married men to be priests in the Eastern Rite, but only single men in the Latin Rite.
Oh, and He calls some Protestant married men to the priesthood in the Latin Rite after they convert, but He doesn't call any Catholic married men to the priesthood in the Latin Rite.
Mandatory celibacy is a Church discipline and can be changed at any time.
**Is it time to ordain married men to the Catholic priesthood?**
No
No
Amen.
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I'm saying that any layman (man or woman) is allowed to distribute Communion only if extraordinary circumstances are present.
This has been repeatedly noted by the Curia, but is routinely ignored, especially in the U.S.
Most recently, it was strongly reiterated in Redemptionis Sacramentum.
[88.] The faithful should normally receive sacramental Communion of the Eucharist during Mass itself, at the moment laid down by the rite of celebration, that is to say, just after the Priest celebrant's Communion.[172] It is the Priest celebrant's responsibility to minister Communion, perhaps assisted by other Priests or Deacons; and he should not resume the Mass until after the Communion of the faithful is concluded. Only when there is a necessity may extraordinary ministers assist the Priest celebrant in accordance with the norm of law.[173]
[151.] Only out of true necessity is there to be recourse to the assistance of extraordinary ministers in the celebration of the Liturgy. Such recourse is not intended for the sake of a fuller participation of the laity but rather, by its very nature, is supplementary and provisional.[252] Furthermore, when recourse is had out of necessity to the functions of extraordinary ministers, special urgent prayers of intercession should be multiplied that the Lord may soon send a Priest for the service of the community and raise up an abundance of vocations to sacred Orders.[253]
[158.] Indeed, the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion may administer Communion only when the Priest and Deacon are lacking, when the Priest is prevented by weakness or advanced age or some other genuine reason, or when the number of faithful coming to Communion is so great that the very celebration of Mass would be unduly prolonged.[259] This, however, is to be understood in such a way that a brief prolongation, considering the circumstances and culture of the place, is not at all a sufficient reason.
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I don't think this is accurate. Wasn't there a big stink over this issue being forced on the FSSP a while back?
Regardless, even if true, it is not a legitimate reason to suppress the order, as long as they regard the Missa Normativa as valid.
Thanks. I'm a historian, so naturally look at things from that perspective. I'm also trying to delve more deeply in to my Catholic faith, so any and all info is helpful.
I hate to sound like Dan Brown, but there does seem to be an awful lot of anti-female bias historically in the Church (as elsewhere). How much of the Church's teachings (as the oldest Christian church) come from historical biases and cultural norms of previous eras versus actual scripture? That's rhetorical, not looking to put you on the spot!
By that standard only eunuchs should be priests. All physically normal males have a very powerful sexual impulse. All homo priests are constantly tempted to go for the boys, and all abstinent hetero priests are constantly tempted to go for the young women; there is no third option. The LEAST lustful priest would be the one who has a lawful outlet for his sex drive, namely, marriage.
Besides, look at history: ordaining married priests worked just fine for 1000 years.
keeps getting deleted from my posts!Oh, man. More evidence to convince me that the Pharisees' rules and regs must have paled in comparison.
He doesn't. According to SCRIPTURE, sex is REQUIRED for married couples. "Do not deny each other...", etc. (1st Corinth 7.) No exception is made for priests.
Would you appreciate it if we Catholics came on to Protestant threads and called you "heretics," or something similar?
Exactly, Our Lord's standard.
"For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it."
Matthew 19.12
For some reason the word "sex", though typed in, did not appear when posted!
I know, I just wanted to put a pentagram in there to mess with ya!
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