Posted on 04/04/2005 7:33:19 AM PDT by SmithL
They divorce, use birth control and have abortions, although their church forbids the practices, and they clamor for a greater role for women in church leadership or support of gay marriage.
This lie is typical of the garbage put forward by the likes of Frances Kissling and 'Catholics for Choice' crowd. The average Catholic in the pews reject these practices and take their Faith and the teaching of the Church seriously.
They divorce, use birth control and have abortions, although their church forbids the practices, and they clamor for a greater role for women in church leadership or support of gay marriage.
This lie is typical of the garbage put forward by the likes of Frances Kissling and 'Catholics for Choice' crowd. The average Catholic in the pews reject these practices and take their Faith and the teaching of the Church seriously.
Agreed. The Church is there to provide precepts for the ideal life. It is not there to legitimise when we fall short of the ideal.
Regards, Ivan
it would be more interesting if the authors of this article had asked American Catholics who actually go to Mass every Sunday, frequent Confession, and try to practice the faith what they thought of the Pope's positions on marriage and life issues. Sadly many people (especially here in the Northeast) think that just because their grandma practiced Catholicism, or because their last name is Irish or Italian that they can live like a complete pagan and still have a "right" to call themselves Catholics. The inclusion of these "Catholics" in MSM studies of American Catholicism greatly skews the picture of the Church.
Step 1: introduce married priests
step 2: admit female deacons
step 3: cool talk about reunification with the Orthodox
step 4: promote ecumenism with Lutherans/Episcopalians
step 4: promote condom use
step 5: let the liturgy contine to "evolve"
Read National Catholic Reporter to see their game plan.
On the issue of contraception, even weekly communicants do not follow the Church's teaching. Just look at the size of the families.
The genie's out of the bottle on birth control.
BTTT -- I agree with you.
NFP has imporved. Think that is the reason?
We are in the second generation of women who are utilizing birth control. I don't think the numbers for NFP are all that great.
The reason that Humanae Vitae continues to be ignored is because even bishops and priests are not convinced of its soundness.
The Church has a major problem when a teaching is defined, and 85% of Church-going Catholics don't observe it.
I don't see that changing, either. Catholics are convinced that they are good Catholics even when using contraception and that there is nothing sinful about it.
You're right...I thought about that after I hit post. Married couples adhering to Church's teaching about birth control are definately in the minority...although there are probably more large new families today than there were 30 years ago.
Bump, sassbox. You're right, you're right, you're oh, so right!
God bless and keep Pope John Paul, II, may the Church grower spiritually stronger, may the Lord send us good and holy priests, and may those that wish to alter the Church according to their ease and preference leave the Church en masse.
The Catholic Church doesn't need to modernize, the modern world needs to Catholic-ize. (ya, I know its not a word)
Perhaps we could use more solid preaching on Humanae Vitae?
NFP was a major part of my Pre-Cana training (4 years ago)...this was not so 20 years ago...
Women are getting sick and tired of pills that make them fat and cause breast cancer.
Yep, they're not real Catholics, they're statistical Catholics -- kept on the books to jack up the numbers.
"Perhaps we could use more solid preaching on Humanae Vitae?"
Agreed. The days of obedience to doctrine as a reason to adhere to teachings has passed us by. I think it is time for the priests to incorporate the moral teachings of the Church into the homilies. The laity need to hear it from the shepherds, rather than this confusion they hear from so many voices.
EXPLAIN the teachings, don't just spout them out. Show that following the culture of death is a dead-end ride and that the Church's moral teachings will help to secure a better, more happy life for us, today! Not in the distant future we call heaven. Only then will the laity begin to see that the secular call to license is not the answer.
Regards
Father Corapi for Pope!
No, the Church doesn't have a problem. Eighty-five percent of Church-going "catholics" who don't observe church teaching have a problem. And that problem concerns their salvation.
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