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To: sassbox
The liberals are already manuevering to undermine the reign of JPII:

Step 1: introduce married priests

step 2: admit female deacons

step 3: cool talk about reunification with the Orthodox

step 4: promote ecumenism with Lutherans/Episcopalians

step 4: promote condom use

step 5: let the liturgy contine to "evolve"

Read National Catholic Reporter to see their game plan.

7 posted on 04/04/2005 10:10:52 AM PDT by Pio (There was no Salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: Pio

BTTT -- I agree with you.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 10:29:17 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Pio
My parish and diocese are well on the path, already, prior to our Holy Father's passing. And many over the last decade have joined the movement rather than reject it. Our diocese considers itself, or strives to be, at the 'forefront of the movement'. We've spawned Joan Chittester, so ...

U.S. Roman Catholics adored Pope John Paul II but vast numbers of the nation's 67 million parishioners openly disregard the pontiff's core teachings about abortion, divorce, extramarital sex and birth control.

And here, our Holy Father is not so loved by all. Many speak derisively of him, referring to what 'Rome' does or the Bishop of Rome. True enough, but refusing to call John Paul II 'Pope'. Some still love him and speak reverently of him, even from the pulpit, but the line is drawn. This group carefully calls themselves 'American' Catholics. True enough, for we are Americans here, but it is not for purposes of nationality, but rather to distance itself from Rome, to create a 'new' church (their words). As I've mentioned before, when our bishop has acted in direct defiance of Rome, he has admonished and ordered us that our first duty is to be obedient to him, our Bishop in direct disobedience to the Pope, for he considers himself equal to the Pope by virtue of their both being Bishops of their own regions. Examples? We had altar girls before the official proclamation was released, we were ordered under threat of excommunication(!) not to purchase or read the Catechism of the Catholic Church when for the first couple of years that it appeared in print, it would be 'too hard for us to understand', even though the Holy Father wrote it for everyone. Only after the Pope himself admonished our Bishop and called him to Rome for a 'visit', did our bishop rescind that 'rule'. And there are dioceses worse than mine in terms of what seems to be de facto schism.

65 posted on 04/05/2005 7:06:55 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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