Hail Mary

TIME ^ | Mar 14 05 | TIME

[swmobuffalo]

She was human. To claim she was sinless is nothing more than accepting a man made supposition. There is no biblical support of the claim that she was sinless. Blessed of God yes, sinless no. We are all, past, present and future, sinners saved by grace, that grace provided by the death and resurrection of Jesus.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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The Proof is in the pudding, ie. Mother MARY's 3 Secrets of -FATIMA- that were given to 3 Children to share. Containing predictions that have all come true.

Including how EVIL takes over a third of the Church's Clergy and their Church leaders at the end:

Visit upon today's world wide Priest Child Abuse Cancer.

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[bondserv]

I have read this passage in many translations that were overseen by some of the best Ancient Language scholars and they consistently present it as a rebuke to His Mother for forcing Him to expose himself in a dangerous way before the Father's appointed time.

It is a study worthy of expounding on free-will. Many times Jesus told those whom He healed to not tell anyone except what was according to the law. They seemed to never listen to Him, blasting the miracle to all they could tell. God is soveriegn, but He has chosen to work within the context of His free-will creation. Mary included!

This literally may have limited the number of people He was able to reach, leading to confrontations with the Scribes and Pharasies that may have come only later in His ministry.

[fatima]

swmobuffalo,So She was a sinner and The Lord was born of Her.

[bondserv]

So She was a sinner and The Lord was born of Her.

If I may say something here?

I have been taught that original sin was attributed to Adam because he chose to eat the fruit and was not deceived. Our sin nature is passed down by the seed of man. The seed of woman, Jesus Christ, has no taint for He was conceived separate from the seed of man.

Mary's seed alone does not contain sin nature.

[fatima]

I was not talking to you.Is this a question or a statement?Be Not afraid oh humble one except that I fall asleep or misspell.

[bondserv]

I was not talking to you.Is this a question or a statement?Be Not afraid oh humble one except that I fall asleep or misspell.

Can you find it in yourself to forgive me? Your wish is my command.

[fatima]

How can you forgive me?One Hail Mary for Her intentions for Her program and it has to be a good one-just once:)

[fatima]

Sorry as I read you might not be catholic,pray for me as we help all faiths in the poor.

[Jeff Chandler]

I am so sorry for your loss. Your son is your treasure stored in heaven, united with Christ. You will someday be able to hold him again, and share his vision of God.

[bondserv]

I have room for your interpretation being true. I am in no way out to get Mary. Her faithfulness is inspirational. I wish the scholars would have worded it correctly, for most translations leave a straightforward reading of the text with my impression. I admit I am relying on many other peoples expertise.

That is why I included the "may have". I say literally because if the majority of scholars have it correct, then the literal text leaves us with this conclusion.

The Bible still teaches us that all, save Jesus Christ, are sinners, and the Bible consistently exposes the dirty laundry of all the faithful. This would only be expected of Mary as well, considering that the Holy Spirit desires for us to focus on Jesus Christ. He would be faithful to prevent people from looking to any other for their example of perfection.

[bondserv]

She knowingly brought an issue to the Son of God, who had the power to do something about it. I assume His disciples were standing with Him when she made Him aware of the problem.

It would be like Bill Gates' mom walking up to him at a woman's meeting and saying, "None of my friends have the new as of yet unreleased version of Windows". And He said, "Woman, if I let copies out before their time, they will be all over the Internet by tomorrow". And she said, "The computers are right over there".

[bondserv]

Meant to ping you to above!

[TAdams8591]

I'd say being the MOTHER OF GOD is a pretty BIG DEAL!!!! Of all the people who ever lived, only MARY can make that claim!

[TAdams8591]

Odd coincidence, wouldn't you say?