Posted on 03/11/2005 5:37:50 PM PST by sionnsar
There seems to be a real mix of opinion about him among the Orthodox, but many Orthodox collections of the works of the Fathers include him. In any event, he certainly wasn't any Arius.
I think me and you are on the same page. There is no way you can advocate homosexual behaviour in light of scripture and tradition not to mention common sense and moral law.
The Bishop doesn't serve God, but rather himself.
They should have left well enough alone, when homosexuality was considered a narcissistic mental and behavior disorder.
Oh wait, it still is. At least to a sane person it is.
How can THE man without sin be a homosexual?
Does this mean we are all DEAD?
Jesus had disciples and followers, not “partners” and He called the sinner “sick.”
Speaking at a Lenten service on "Homosexuality and the Body of Christ: Is There a New Way?" Robinson pleaded for his hearers to accept his homosexuality and asked, "Who could know Jesus?"
The Bible tells us that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their wicked sins, mainly homosexuality. Lot offered his daughters to spare his male friends from homosexual rape - to him homosexuality was a worse sin than the rape of his daughters:
Gen. 19:4-8
"4: Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and old-surrounded the house. 5: They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out so that we can have sex with them.' 6: Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7: and said, 'No my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. 8: Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.'"
God condemns homosexuality as described by Paul in Romans 1:
Romans1
18: The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19: since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20: For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21: For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22: Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23: and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24: Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25: They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Amen.
26:Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27:In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28:Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29:They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30:slanderers, Godhaters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31:they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32:Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Post #89 is for you, too.
Jesus had disciples and followers, not “partners” and He called the sinner “sick.”
Amen and...AMEN.
Thank you.
It troubles me that those who are in the position to know better continue to corrupt the flock they are suppose to lead.
As I read Robinson's ramblings, he seems to have satisfied his own lust by justifying what he has done to the Episcopal faith. How absolutely tragic that this church has readily accepted this teaching of man over the commandments of God. Again the Bishop serves himself rather than that of God.
I talked to a friend of the family, who is a very conservative priest, and asked where he thinks the Catholic Church is headed with the problem the Episcopal church is facing right now. He is not optimistic about our future. I hope that is not the case.
I pray that the Pope that succeeds Pope John Paul 2 is just as conservative, and will continue to lead the church in the right direction.
Why have we dismissed the work of Satan behind these acts of suicide?
Is it not possible for those who have been corrupted, feel completely worthless because they have abandoned the teachings of God, or feel as though God has abandoned them?
Your heart goes out for those in such turmoil, and we has a Christian community work to forgive and bring others to God. The church works to condemn the sin, but not the sinner. To say that gays and lesbians have suffered at the hands of the church is a bit off the mark. (Why is it that those who follow God's teachings are the villains here?)
We don't take away God to satisfy our own agenda.
OK, from now on do us all a favor and stop using words when you talk.
Wow - so what percentage of the Episcopalian Church threw its soul away by supporting this serpent's ascendancy to the office of bishop?
I think this is one of those statements that is accepted the more it is repeated... but I'd like to see stats and proof because I don't believe it. Besides, the Church teaches (and always has) love the sinner and hate the sin... same with all of us in our sins. It gauls me that the canard of the Church persecuting gays(sinners) by letting them know their behaviour is sinful is hardly ever questioned.
bttt!
Thanks for the article. Sadly, I'm not surprised.
I wish I were.
This is happening, actually. The Anglican Communion Network is comprised of the 13 orthodox ECUSA dioceses, and is in close discussion with AMiA (which is under the African Primates) and REC+APA (which are merging, and in close discussion with said Primates). And the TAC is part of Forward in Faith, which is drawing the orthodox Anglicans together. (If and) when ECUSA is booted, they will offer to be the American province.
I can't believe anyone can listen to this without puking. And I mean that. Literally. If I couldn't run up to the pulpit with an open Bible ready to challenge this charlatan point-by-point, I couldn't last fifteen minutes before losing my breakfast.
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