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Dan Brown's a Big Fat Liar: Mary Magdalen in Leonardo's "Last Supper" is an OBVIOUS hoax
Apologia ^ | unknown | Mrs. Lopez

Posted on 03/10/2005 11:06:56 PM PST by Malachias111

Look at the pictures of Leonardo's "Last Supper" before and after restoration. Then think of the big to-do about Mary Magdalen's allegedly sitting next to Christ in this painting. Then prepare to laugh -- and get mad at the thought of so many souls torn away from Christ because of Dan Brown's lying book.

http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/xdavincilastsupperphotos.html


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Eastern Religions; Evangelical Christian; History; Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; art; churchexposed; danbrown; davincicode; hoax; painting
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1 posted on 03/10/2005 11:06:58 PM PST by Malachias111
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To: Malachias111

That can't be real... there would have been a serious firestorm if there was such a major alteration to that painting, no?


2 posted on 03/10/2005 11:13:11 PM PST by thoughtomator (I believe in the power of free markets to do good)
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To: thoughtomator

Not sure. There would have been a serious firestorm if a network like CNN was caught protecting Saddam. ;)


3 posted on 03/10/2005 11:16:30 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Malachias111

The pictures of Jesus are not presented in the same aspect ratio... the one on the right, described as "thinned down", is thin because someone compressed the picture in the horizontal direction.


4 posted on 03/10/2005 11:21:30 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Malachias111
and get mad at the thought of so many souls torn away from Christ because of Dan Brown's lying book.

I have to wonder when I read this type of statement about how faithful someone is that their faith might be shattered by a piece of fictional writing.

Read the book - it is another excellent Dan Brown mystery fiction.

5 posted on 03/10/2005 11:42:19 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu; All
I haven't read the book, but want to expand your comments about fictional writing to include artistic works, such as paintings.

It's not as if Leonardo were present and painting from a memory or a polaroid snapshot.

When was the last time you got together with a group of friends and the group didn't sit around the table facing each other? Further, at the time of Christ, it was more likely that they were "lounging" more at floor level around a relatively low surface serving as a table.

So, I have a hard time seeing why people get so upset about the implications of Mary Magdalene being in the painting from a faith standpoint. I can understand it from an artistic standpoint, especially if these "restorations" have taken liberties with the original artwork. But I have never viewed the painting as an historic representation of the actual Last Supper.
6 posted on 03/11/2005 12:31:08 AM PST by green pastures
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To: Malachias111; NYer; cpforlife.org; Alouette; Liz; thoughtomator

We are warned about graven images....there was no Photoshop in ancient Israel so we have to assume this is all legit.

/sarc OFF.

The Jesus Seminar, The Da Vinci Code and so many others are deliberately or ignorantly leading many from the Truth. And if the Left can keep all Bibles, Ten Commandments and Prayer out of all TAXPAYER-FUNDED public places, the "Truth" is at risk of becoming whatever The Ministry Of Truth says it is today.


7 posted on 03/11/2005 1:05:55 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Malachias111

I found this was good for looking up-close:

http://milano.arounder.com/PROJECTS/SANTA_MARIA_DELLE_GRAZIE/


8 posted on 03/11/2005 1:11:53 AM PST by lunarbicep (Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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To: lunarbicep
Thank you for such a great site. I am teaching this painting in an art history class soon and this site will be invaluable for a restored view and all the details.

Re Dan Brown. I did read the Code and enjoyed it very much. But we need to look at it as a thriller, not as art historically nor biblically correct. I know many of the art works in the book very well, but for the life of me I can't remember any of his "facts" now as I teach the works (in the traditional way).

I wouldn't worry about Brown siphoning off believers. I like the fact that he is getting people to look at art in a new way. And, from my perspective, if more people are going to Europe to see the art works he discusses, that's great.

And an early post was quite correct: all art images are reconstructed as the artist sees the event. They are an interpretation of form and content (meaning through shape, color, etc.), not facts.

Thanks again for the cool link.

9 posted on 03/11/2005 3:35:33 AM PST by Republicanprofessor (10)
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To: Malachias111

If you see the Leonardo DiVinci’s painting the Last Supper as art,

it is wonderful to behold but poor technique

 

If you see the painting as history

you are mislead

 

If you use the painting for an understanding of Y’shua’s

last Pesach Seder you allow yourself to be seriously deceived.

 

The Last Seder

 

First Century Seders were held lying on cushions

on a horseshoe shaped stone slab.

The host was positioned at one end

with the guest next to him followed by the most favored.

The host was Judas, the keeper of the money.

The guest was Y’shua

Followed by John

 

Blessings to all, b'Shem Y'shua HaMashiach

 


10 posted on 03/11/2005 8:11:42 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt

Thank you. You explained it much better than I was able.


11 posted on 03/11/2005 8:42:30 AM PST by green pastures
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To: green pastures

Blessings in His Holy Name.


12 posted on 03/11/2005 8:50:54 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: thoughtomator

The criticisms of the rework are real. The blogger's comments are fake. Jesus isn't "slimmed down"; the image is crunched horizontally.


13 posted on 03/11/2005 6:28:40 PM PST by dangus
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