Apparently the author isn't one of those with a college education.
The Catholic leadership needs to get it's theology srtaight, then it needs to get it's homopedophillic priests under control.
The wishy-washy attitude on the theological side, and the rampant homosexuality among it's clergy will be the death of the Catholic church.
The Church I grew up with left me in 1965 when services went from Gregorian chants to Peter Paul and Mary (not the Saints).
Reminds me of some Reform synagogues... by the time you learn the liturgical tune they change it again. There's something to be said for 3,000 year-old traditions.
Maybe they're in the Religion forum. Have you checked there?
The last Latin Mass I attended was in 1987, and frankly it didn't do anything for me that the recent Mass doesn't do. Someone who is likely to be bored at the recent Mass will likely be bored at a Latin Mass. Those who pay attention, and for whom the Mass is truly a Celebration of Christ's Sacrifice, Death and Resurrection would likely be happy with either, though some may like the Latin more than the vernacular.
I wouldn't mind attending a Mass in Latin, but I wouldn't want to see a return to the Mass in Latin only. We don't need the pendulum to swing completely in the opposite direction, we only need some balance.
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I'm not Catholic, so what's so special about Latin? How about some reformers go really old school and start preaching in Aramaic. And what does that say about your church if people would rather attend if they can't understand what the leader is saying?
Soooooo, let me get this straight. The writer thinks that Roman Catholics are leaving the pews because of the change 20 years ago from the traditional Latin mass to the Hootenany??? ROFLOLOLOL! Nice try!
I don't suppose the corruption in their seminaries, which includes pedophilia, has anything to do with it at all.
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THE Gallup Poll: 64% of all American Catholics and 73% of college-educated Catholics prefer the restoration of the Tridentine Mass as the normative Mass of the Roman Catholic Church after forty years of bad liturgical road! Who'd have thunk it? That was the Gallup Poll not NCReporter.
It's almost enough to tempt me to support a very limited democracy in the pews but not quite. How about you?
Now the Roman Catholic churches are empty. Now no one believes in the ritual of the Mass.The church is growing, however. For Jesus proclaimed that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. With the focus on ritual, robes, golden chalices, a dead Christ on a crucifix and other artifacts, many based their faith in religious trappings and ceremony - believing in things - rather than the living Christ. But Jesus Christ remains the same yesterday, today, and forever, Amen.
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They left or stayed home. Now we have Novus Ordo churches full of converted mainline Protestants and two generations of post VII Catholics who know nothing else.
Gee 64%. That can not be, I read it here on FR that very few people want the old Mass back. I am sure I read that no one will attend the old Mass. I must be misreading something ping.
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I am tired of the fight, tired of the debates. I prefer the TLM, actually I would think the 65 missal with TLM rubrics would be ideal, even a reverent NO where there are no altar girls, no EMHCs and the altar rails are used retains(such as Assumtion Grotto in Detroit) a large amount of Catholics herritage.
But that said, at this point, I just want to retreat into a TLM or quasi tradional NO and try to work to sanctify my soul and help other Catholics see the beauty of traditional liturgy, but not by venom, but attracting though though the reverence and solid theology.
What is ironic is from what I understand, in 78, it still wasnt difficult then to find a parish that used altar rails, EMHCs still werent the norm, of course altar girls were still banned and there were few female lectors, its sad how far downhill its gone since then.
Bumpus ad summum
I was stationed in Italy during the three Popes events.....lots of bells and local TV's watching the smoke stack at the Vatican. I was also on the USSS/TSD detail for the Popes visit to AZ in 88 and CO in 93.........he's cool.
He really likes "cake"..... I mean he really really really likes cake. The archdiocese (sp?) in Denver where he stayed overnight must have had 30 cakes made for him. We x-rayed the cakes, searched his quarters, all of the church and a retreat up in the mountains he stayed at for a while. We also did all of Tempe stadium in AZ and the stage for the world youth day in CO.
I remember he wore nike tennis shoes while he walked around the grounds of the retreat by himself. Kinda funny to see the pope in tennies.
..... His aides gave each of us a rosary and a certificate of thanks before he departed. I kept it for many years and then gave it to a friend who was retired navy and a devout catholic. I kept the certificate for my I love me wall.....:o)
My personal memories of my time around the 3 popes.......