Posted on 02/24/2005 12:23:08 PM PST by newheart
NEWRY, Northern Ireland (2/24/205)--The Episcopal Church USA and the Anglican Church of Canada could face suspension from the Anglican Communion, 35 Primates have decided in closed door meetings at the Dromantine center a secluded Roman Catholic retreat house.
Disciplinary action has been taken, and the two provinces' membership is under review following their actions over gay ordinations and same sex blessings.
After three days of open, honest and very frank discussion by the Primates, VirtueOnline was told that the Primates had "reached a conclusion."
Both provinces could face suspension at the end of three months if they fail to implement the recommendations of the Windsor Report.
If they do not repent of their actions for consecrating an openly homosexual priest to the episcopacy, agree to a moratorium on consecrating future gay clergy and performing same sex rites, a "divorce" will be finalized by the end of May.
Furthermore, ECUSA Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold has been banned from attending any future Primatial meetings unless the Episcopal Church agrees to accept the Windsor Report recommendations.
Sources inside the Dromantine Center told VirtueOnline that the Anglican Consultative Council has been told that they cannot invite Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold to any future gatherings if the status quo remains.
VirtueOnline can also confirm that Pittsburgh Bishop Robert Duncan leader of the Anglican Communion Network is in the area and he and the American Anglican Council will be hosting a dinner for the majority of the Primates at the end of their historic, epoch-making conference.
A number of the Primates have been fasting at the Dromantine Center, and last night, following the decision by the Primates, one primate was heard to say, "I shall now take my first meal."
While Presiding Bishop Griswold was allowed to preach at the Belfast cathedral last Sunday, Presiding Bishop Greg Venables of the Southern Cone was refused permission by the Archbishop of Armagh, Robin Eames to preach in a large evangelical parish.
Earlier in the week the orthodox primates of the Anglican Communion had refused to share in a common Eucharist with those whom they believe have abandoned apostolic faith and practice.
A formal communiqu=E9 with more recommendations will be presented to the media Friday, 5.30pm here in Newry.
Glad to see them take this stand...it is much needed IMHO if they are going to remain true to the truth of the gospel as contained in the Holy Scriptures.
So9
Deo Gratia!
Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams. Well Ye Ha for someone that is doing the right thing and not letting the G/L movement roll over the truth and get away with it.
I know you're back, but I figured you wouldn't mind if I jumped the gun a bit and posted and pinged this one. Good news indeed. Although it probably signals major turmoil in ECUSA.
Details, details. One wonders if 'repentance' means that Gene Robinson will no longer be considered a bishop.
Where is the fudge. There must be a fudge somewhere. This isn't the Anglican Church I know.
We can only hope.
Dear Raycpa,
"Where is the fudge."
From my perspective, the fudge will be in the details of:
1. What constitutes "repentance"
2. Who gets to measure it.
3. What is the mechanism, then, for formalizing the excommunication of recalcitrants.
4. Who gets to "pull the trigger" on the break.
Just my two cents.
sitetest
Thanks for posting this good news.
We are now headed towards two churches in the US and Canada.
1. One where morality, and the holy words rule.
2. The other where Moral Insanity rules and tries to gag us with their immorality.
Who gets the property?
1. One where morality, and the holy words rule.
2. The other where Moral Insanity rules and tries to gag us with their immorality.
How true, and has been for some time.
The ECUSA has put Gene Robinson's life story next to the Holy Bible and found the Holy Bible lacking, because they now know so much more than the peons who wrote the Holy Bible.
On another point, 'scuse my ignorance but why did Eames not allow Bishop Venables to speak? What was the Eames Report about?
ECG... Also known as the Episcopal Church of Griswold
To be determined.
If the National Church and the Canadian church are declared to be illegal or not valid by the overall Anglican Church, hopefully the individual parishes will determine who keeps the property.
TNRECG&W = The Not Really Episcopal Church of Griswold & Williams
answer: ECG... Also known as the Episcopal Church of Griswold
Not necessarily so .. there is some hope that the properties would stay with the parishes.. besides, how would ECG support all those empty buildings?
Just watch God work this one out.....
I have no idea what the Eames report was or was about.
The Morally Insane leaders of the dark side have received a rather harsh slap by the rest of the Anglican body.
I'm sure that they will respond in their usual Morally Insane manners and blame everyone but them for their actions.
"Just watch God work this one out....."
And He will.
I feel sad but relieved. I do think that the church splintering is necessary, but I also recognize that it is going to cause a lot of good people pain. But, the truth is the truth, though, and avoiding it can only lead to a false happiness, not true happiness. Maybe undecided folks, and folks who have been avoiding the issue, will now see the truth and go with it. Let's hope.
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