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Why Did God Save Me? - R.C. Sproul
Monergism.com ^ | R.C. Sproul

Posted on 02/08/2005 5:46:04 AM PST by ksen

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1 posted on 02/08/2005 5:46:05 AM PST by ksen
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R.C. Sproul ping!


2 posted on 02/08/2005 5:47:09 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: fortheDeclaration; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; xzins

Ping for those who may interested.


3 posted on 02/08/2005 5:48:04 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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R.C. is my favorite theologian. 'Renewing your Mind', really helped this jewish boy know the truth about messiah.

Thanks for posting this.

4 posted on 02/08/2005 5:50:08 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: ksen
He made the decision before the Fall, with the knowledge that the Fall will [sic] come and with the knowledge of its consequences.

This places God in time.
5 posted on 02/08/2005 5:50:39 AM PST by aruanan
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To: ksen

God is glorified when men are saved.

God is glorified when sinners are punished.


6 posted on 02/08/2005 5:51:25 AM PST by Gamecock ("Not because we consider ourselves a chosen nation; God moves and chooses as He wills." GWB)
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To: aruanan

How so?


7 posted on 02/08/2005 5:52:06 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: freedomson
R.C. is my favorite theologian. 'Renewing your Mind', really helped this jewish boy know the truth about messiah.

Thanks for that testimony freedomson. There are some who believe that there is nothing evangelical about Calvinism. Thanks for putting that to rest.

8 posted on 02/08/2005 5:53:39 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: ksen

Saved from what?


9 posted on 02/08/2005 6:18:23 AM PST by stuartcr
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A Hell you don't believe in.


10 posted on 02/08/2005 6:23:18 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: stuartcr

The wrath of God.


11 posted on 02/08/2005 6:23:36 AM PST by Gamecock ("Not because we consider ourselves a chosen nation; God moves and chooses as He wills." GWB)
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To: ksen

OK, thanks.


12 posted on 02/08/2005 6:24:25 AM PST by stuartcr
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What would make God wrathful?


13 posted on 02/08/2005 6:24:57 AM PST by stuartcr
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Some people give a very simple answer to this question. They say that God saved you because you put your trust and faith in Christ when you answered the summons of the gospel.

That is the Gospel Message. Simply put, God saves those who put their faith and trust in Christ.

Everything that Sproul says after that is an argument against this Gospel truth.

But the deeper question is.....

In essense Sproul is rejecting the Gospel. He thinks it is too simple.

14 posted on 02/08/2005 6:28:42 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: ksen

For home reading thanks


15 posted on 02/08/2005 6:29:57 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: P-Marlowe
In essense Sproul is rejecting the Gospel.

Sproul is doing no such thing. Can't you wait until we get past post #25 before starting to get inflammatory?

16 posted on 02/08/2005 6:32:23 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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From the article:

Some say that God foresees the choices of people. I think that takes the very heart out of the biblical teaching.

I believe this fairly represents your view of foreknowledge-based Election, doesn't it?

17 posted on 02/08/2005 6:35:04 AM PST by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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Can't you wait until we get past post #25 before starting to get inflammatory?

C'mon ksen. Don't play innocent. You knew before you decided to post this that it would be inflammatory.

If you really want "discussion" you should post articles that would foster that discussion rather than articles that seek to drive home the same point that you know is the major area of contention.

You've been around here far to long to think that an article like this will do anything but move the argument to a different thread.

And before I'm chastised for not reading the article, I did read it. You can consider this my comment on what Sproul has to say.

18 posted on 02/08/2005 6:40:34 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: stuartcr

Your sin. My sin.

If you really don know, go here and enter "wrath" http://bible.gospelcom.net/
It's only mentioned 194 times.


19 posted on 02/08/2005 6:42:00 AM PST by Gamecock ("Not because we consider ourselves a chosen nation; God moves and chooses as He wills." GWB)
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***And before I'm chastised for not reading the article, I did read it.***

Well that's a refreshing change.


20 posted on 02/08/2005 6:43:05 AM PST by Gamecock ("Not because we consider ourselves a chosen nation; God moves and chooses as He wills." GWB)
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