Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jesus' Teaching on God's Law
Jesus Christ: The Real Story ^ | 2004 | Various

Posted on 01/07/2005 7:47:31 PM PST by DouglasKC

Jesus' Teaching on God's Law

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17).

Perhaps the most widespread controversies about the teachings of Jesus concern His attitude toward the laws of God recorded in the Old Testament.

The approach of most churches and denominations regarding Jesus is that He brought a new teaching differing considerably from the instructions of the Old Testament. The common view is that the teachings of Christ in the New Testament annulled and replaced the teachings of the Old Testament. But do they?

The idea that Jesus departed from the Old Testament is also a common assumption within Judaism. Jacob Neusner, in his book A Rabbi Talks With Jesus, explains why Jews as a whole do not follow Jesus and reject any possibility that He could be the Messiah. "Jews believe in the Torah of Moses," he explains, "...and that belief requires faithful Jews to enter a dissent at the teachings of Jesus, on the grounds that those teachings at important points contradict the Torah" (1993, pp. xii).

Here is a serious mistake both Christianity and Judaism make about the teachings of Jesus. Both hold the erroneous view that Jesus departed from the teachings of the Old Testament, especially with regard to law.

As we will see, the record shows that while Jesus disagreed with the religious leaders, He didn't disagree with Old Testament Scriptures. The same record shows that traditional Christianity itself does not follow the teachings of Christ.

To know the real Jesus we have to ask: What did He really say? It doesn't ultimately matter what people say about Him. Nor does it really matter what interpretations they give of what He said. What truly matters is what He really said, and whether we're going to believe what He said.

Clear statement in the Sermon on the Mount

The Sermon on the Mount is a good place to begin. Since this is the longest recorded statement of Jesus Christ's teachings, we should expect to find in it His view toward the laws of God as recorded in the Old Testament. And indeed we do.

One of the reasons for some of Jesus' statements in the Sermon on the Mount is that—because His preaching was so different from that of the Pharisees and Sadducees—some people believed His intention was to subvert the authority of God's Word and substitute His own in its place. But His real intention was to demonstrate that many of the things the Pharisees and Sadducees had taught all along were contrary to the original teachings of the Torah of Moses, the first five books of the Bible.

Jesus refuted the erroneous ideas people had formed regarding Him with three emphatic declarations about the law. Let's look at them.

"I did not come to destroy but to fulfill"

Jesus explains His view of the law very quickly after giving the beatitudes: "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17).

So immediately we see that Jesus had no intention of destroying the law. He even tells us not to even think such a thing. Far from being antagonistic to the Old Testament Scriptures, He said He had come to fulfill "the Law and the Prophets" and proceeded to confirm their authority. "The Law and the Prophets" was a term commonly used for the Old Testament Scriptures (compare Matthew 7:12).

"The Law" referred to the first five books of the Bible, the books of Moses in which God's laws were written down. "The Prophets" referred not only to the writings of the biblical prophets, but also to the historical books of what came to be known as the Old Testament.

We have discussed in earlier chapters how Jesus fulfilled "the Prophets." But what did Jesus mean when He spoke of fulfilling the law?

Regrettably, the meaning of "fulfilling the law" has been twisted by many who claim the name of Jesus but don't really understand what He taught. They say that since Jesus said He would fulfill the law, we no longer need to keep it and the law has no further obligation on His followers.

Another view of "fulfilling the law" is that Jesus "filled full" what was lacking in the law—that is, He completed it, partly canceling it and partly adding to it, forming what is sometimes referred to as "Christ's law" or "New Testament teaching." The implication of this view is that the New Testament brought a change in the requirements for salvation and that the laws given in the Old Testament are obsolete. But do either of these views accurately reflect what Jesus meant?

Jesus' view of fulfilling the law

The Greek word pleroo, translated "fulfill" in Matthew 5:17, means "to make full, to fill, to fill up, ... to fill to the full" or "to render full, i.e. to complete" (Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, 2002, Strong's number 4137). In other words, Jesus said He came to complete the law and make it perfect. How? By showing the spiritual intent and application of God's law. His meaning is clear from the remainder of the chapter, where He showed the spiritual intent of specific commandments.

Some distort the meaning of "fulfill" to have Jesus saying, "I did not come to destroy the law, but to end it by fulfilling it." This is inconsistent with His own words. Through the remainder of the chapter, He showed that the spiritual application of the law made it even more difficult to keep, not that it was annulled or no longer necessary.

Jesus, by explaining, expanding and exemplifying God's law, fulfilled a prophecy of the Messiah found in Isaiah 42:21: "The LORD is well pleased for His righteousness' sake; He will exalt the law, and make it honorable." The Hebrew word gadal, translated "exalt" or "magnify" (KJV) literally means "to be or become great" (William Wilson, Wilson's Old Testament Word Studies, "Magnify").

Jesus Christ did exactly that, showing the holy, spiritual intent, purpose and scope of God's law. He met the law's requirements by obeying it perfectly in thought and deed, both in the letter and in the intent of the heart.

All will be fulfilled

The second major statement by Jesus given in the exact same context makes it even clearer that Jesus did not come to destroy, rescind, nullify or abrogate the law. "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" (Matthew 5:18).

With these words, Jesus likened the continuance of the law to the permanence of heaven and earth. He is saying that the law is immutable, inviolable and unchangeable and can only be fulfilled, never abrogated.

We should note that in this verse a different Greek word is used for "fulfilled": ginomai, meaning "to become," "to come into existence" or "to come to pass" (Thayer's, Strong's number 1096). Until the ultimate completion of God's plan to glorify humanity in His Kingdom comes to pass—that is, as long as there are still fleshly human beings —the physical codification of God's law in Scripture is necessary. This, Jesus explained, is as certain as the continued existence of the universe.

His servants must keep the law

The third statement of Jesus pronounces that our fate rests on our attitude toward and treatment of God's holy law. "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least [by those] in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:19). The "by those" is added for clarification, since, as explained in other passages, those who persist in lawbreaking and teach others to break God's law will not themselves be in the Kingdom at all.

Jesus makes it very clear that those who follow Him and aspire to His Kingdom have a perpetual obligation to obey and uphold God's law. He is saying that we cannot diminish from the law of God by even a jot or tittle—the equivalent of the crossing of a "t" or dotting of an "i."

The value He places on the commandments of God is also unmistakable—as well as the high esteem toward the law that He requires from all those who teach in His name. His disapproval falls on those who slight the least of the law's commands, and His honor will be bestowed on those who teach and obey the commandments.

Since Jesus obeyed the commandments of God, it follows that His servants, too, must keep the commandments and teach others to do the same (1 John 2:2-6). It is in this way that the true ministers of Christ are to be identified—by their following the example He left them (John 13:15).

Must exceed the scribes and Pharisees

With the next statement in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus leaves no doubt as to what He meant in the previous three declarations. He meant without question for His disciples to obey God's law—and He was requiring them to obey according to a standard that went beyond anything they'd heard before. "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:20).

Who were the scribes and Pharisees? The scribes were the most renowned teachers of the law—the interpreters of the law, the learned men, the experts. The Pharisees, a related group, were commonly viewed as the most exemplary models of Judaism. They formed a sect of Judaism that established a code of morals and rituals more rigid than that spelled out in the law of Moses, basing much of their practices on years of traditions. The scribes and Pharisees were both highly strict and highly respected in Judaism (Acts 26:5).

While the scribes were the experts, the Pharisees professed the purest practice of righteousness. So when Jesus stated that one's righteousness must exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees, this was a startling declaration!

The Pharisees were looked up to as those who had attained the very pinnacle of personal righteousness, and the common people supposed that such heights of spirituality were far beyond their reach. But Jesus asserted that the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees wasn't enough to entitle them to enter the Kingdom of which He spoke! What hope, then, did others have?

Jesus condemns religious hypocrisy

In actual fact, there was a real problem with the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees. The heart of the matter was that their righteousness was defective in that it was external only. They appeared to obey the law to those who observed them, but broke God's law inwardly, where it couldn't be seen by others.

Notice Jesus' scathing denunciation of their hypocrisy in making a show of religion: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence ...For you ...indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness ...You also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness" (Matthew 23:25-28).

These self-appointed religious teachers emphasized minor aspects of the law while neglecting more important issues. "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith.

These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone" (verse 23). Jesus was concerned that every part of the righteous requirement be obeyed, and angry that they were blind to the "weightier" parts—the major spiritual aspects—of the law.

While they were fastidious with their ceremonial traditions, at the same time they took liberties to disobey God's direct commands. In some situations they actually elevated their traditions above the clear commands of God (Matthew 15:1-9).

Behind their actions was the base motive of self-exaltation and self-interest. They went public with what should have been their more private devotions toward God—prayer, fasting and giving of alms—all so they could be seen and thought of by others as righteous (Matthew 6:1-6; 23:5-7).

Religious leaders did not keep God's law

Immediately after His statement that He had no intention of doing away with God's law, Jesus proceeded to give examples of the traditions and teachings of the Jewish religious leaders that completely missed the point or even contradicted the spiritual intent of God's laws.

The first example He gave was the Sixth Commandment, "You shall not murder." All that the Pharisees understood about this commandment was that the act of murder was prohibited. Jesus taught what should have been obvious, that the intent of the Sixth Commandment was not just to prohibit the literal act of murder, but every evil attitude of heart and mind that led to murder—including unjust anger and contemptuous words (Matthew 5:21-26).

He did likewise with their narrow view of the Seventh Commandment, "You shall not commit adultery." The Pharisees of the day understood the physical act of sexual relations with a woman outside of marriage to be sin. They should also have known, as in the case of the Sixth Commandment, that lust for another woman was sinful because the one lusting had already broken the Commandment in his heart.

These are examples of the "righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees" that Jesus characterized as making the outside of the cup and dish clean, while on the inside remaining "full of greed and self-indulgence" (Matthew 23:25, NRSV).

Jesus instructed His disciples that God's law must indeed be obeyed outwardly, but it must also be obeyed in the spirit and intent of the heart. When Jesus taught such heartfelt obedience to God's laws, He was faithful to what the Old Testament taught: "For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart" (1 Samuel 16:7).

The prophet Jeremiah looked forward to a time when God would establish a new covenant in which God promised to "put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts" (Jeremiah 31:33). God's original intent for His law was that people would observe it from their hearts (Deuteronomy 5:29). The failure of human beings to obey God's law in the "inward being" (Psalm 51:6, NRSV) inevitably led to outward disobedience.

Jesus did not change the law

Jesus prefaced His contrast of the scribes' and Pharisees' narrow interpretation of the law with its true spiritual intent using the words, "You have heard that it was said ...But I say to you ..." (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28).

Some erroneously think Jesus' intention was to contrast His own teaching with that of Moses and thereby declare Himself as the true authority. They assume that Jesus was either opposed to the Mosaic law or modifying it in some way.

But it's hard to imagine that Jesus, just after delivering the most solemn and emphatic proclamation of the permanence of the law and emphasizing His own high regard for it, would now undermine the authority of the law by other pronouncements. Jesus wasn't inconsistent; He honored and upheld the law in all His statements.

In this passage He is not pitting Himself against the Mosaic law, nor is He claiming a superior spirituality. What He was doing was refuting the wrong interpretations perpetuated by the scribes and Pharisees. This is why He declared that one's righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees. Jesus was restoring, in the minds of His listeners, the Mosaic precepts to their original place, purity and power. (For a better understanding of these laws, request or download your free copy of the booklet The Ten Commandments.)

It should also be obvious that because the same God is the Author of Old and New Covenant alike, there can be no vital conflict between them, and that the fundamental laws of morality underlying both must be and are in full accord. God tells us in Malachi 3:6, "I am the LORD, I do not change ..."

Jesus and the Sabbath

Among those who claim to follow Jesus, no biblical command has aroused as much controversy as the Fourth Commandment—God's instruction to remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy (Exodus 20:8-11). Here in particular we find that people's interpretations of Jesus' teaching are all over the map.

Some argue that Jesus annulled all of the Ten Commandments but that nine were reinstituted in the New Testament—all except the Sabbath. Some believe that Jesus replaced the Sabbath with Himself, and that He is now our "rest." Some believe that no Sabbath at all is needed now, that we can rest or worship on any day or at any time we choose. Regardless of which argument one uses, an overwhelming portion of traditional Christianity believes that Sunday, the first day of the week, has replaced the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week.

Can we find support for these views in Christ's practice or teaching? In light of Jesus' clear teaching on the permanence of God's laws, what do we find when it comes to His attitude toward the Sabbath day?

In studying the Gospels, one of the first things we should notice is that Jesus' custom was to attend the synagogue for worship on the Sabbath (Luke 4:16). This was His regular practice. On this particular occasion, He even announced His mission as Messiah to those in the synagogue that day.

Interestingly, we later find that Paul's custom was also to worship and teach in the synagogues on the Sabbath day (Acts 17:2-3). Neither he nor Jesus ever so much as hinted that they needn't be there or that they should worship on a different day!

Confrontations over how, not whether, to keep the Sabbath

Where many people jump to wrong conclusions about Jesus and the Sabbath is in His confrontations with the scribes and Pharisees. Yet these confrontations were never over whether to keep the Sabbath—only over how it should be kept. There is a crucial difference between the two!

For example, Jesus boldly challenged the Jews concerning their interpretation of Sabbath observance by performing healings on the Sabbath (Mark 3:1-6; Luke 13:10-17; 14:1-6).

According to the Pharisees, rendering medical attention to someone, unless it were a matter of life and death, was prohibited on the Sabbath. And since none of these healings involved a life-and-death situation, they thought Jesus was breaking the Sabbath. But as the Savior, Jesus understood the purpose of the Sabbath, that it was a perfectly appropriate time to bring His message of healing, hope and redemption to humanity and to live that message through His actions.

To make His point, Jesus asked the Pharisees the question, "Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" (Mark 3:4). He exposed their hypocrisy in that they saw nothing wrong with working to rescue an animal that fell into a pit on the Sabbath day, or watering an animal on that day, yet they were condemning Him for helping on the Sabbath a human being—whose worth was far greater than that of any animal (Luke 13:15-17; Matthew 12:10-14).

He was rightfully angry at their inability to see that they placed their own traditions and interpretations over the true purpose of Sabbath observance (Mark 3:5). Yet they were so spiritually blind that they hated Him for exposing their distortions of God's commands (verse 6).

On one occasion Jesus' disciples, as they walked through a field on the Sabbath day, picked handfuls of grain so they would have something to eat. The disciples weren't harvesting the field; they were merely grabbing a quick snack to take care of their hunger. But the Pharisees insisted this was not lawful. Jesus used an example from Scripture to show that the spirit and intent of the law were not broken and that God's law allowed for mercy (Mark 2:23-26).

It was in this context that Jesus gives the true purpose of the Sabbath. "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath," He said (verse 27). The Pharisees had reversed the priorities of the law of God. They had added so many meticulous regulations and traditions to the Sabbath commandment that trying to keep it as they demanded had become an enormous burden for people rather than the blessing God had intended it to be (Isaiah 58:13-14).

Jesus then claimed to have authority to say how the Sabbath should be observed: "Therefore, the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath" (verse 28). Here Jesus takes His rightful place as the One who gave this law of the Sabbath in the first place. For, being the very Creator as we have previously seen (Colossians 1:16; John 1:3), He is the One who created the Sabbath by resting on it (Genesis 2:2-3). Thus it is foolish to argue that Jesus would abolish or annul something that He had personally created for the benefit of every human being!

What Jesus is in essence saying to the Pharisees here is: You don't have a right to tell people how to keep God's laws. I am the One who gave the laws to man in the first place, therefore I know why it was commanded and how it was intended to be observed.

When Jesus spoke, it was from the authority He inherently possessed as the great Lawgiver. Jesus never abrogated His own law! But He did most certainly correct these religious leaders' perversions of the law without hesitation. (If you would like to know more about the biblical Sabbath day, request or download your free copy of the booklet Sunset to Sunset: God's Sabbath Rest.)

Judaism forsook Moses, Christianity forsook Christ

When it comes to Jesus and the law, we have to conclude that the "Christian" religion has let us down by not holding to the original teachings of Christ, who Himself held to the original teachings of the Old Testament Scriptures. And as the teachings of Jewish religious leaders corrupted Moses, so did the later teachers of Christ—that is, false teachers—corrupt the teachings of Jesus. In reality, Jesus and Moses agreed.

Let's ask a question here. If Jesus were here today, which day would He observe as the Sabbath? It would be the day He commanded in the Ten Commandments, the seventh day.

The real Jesus kept the law and expected His disciples to do the same. He made clear His attitude about anyone diminishing one iota from the law. Anyone not keeping it is only using the good name of Christ without doing what He said.

He warns us: "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" (Matthew 7:21-23).

So we have to ask, Do the churches which claim to represent Christ really represent Him accurately?

Jesus often pointed out that His teaching was based in the Old Testament Scriptures. When challenged concerning His teaching He responded, "Have you not read ...?" before pointing His challengers to the Scriptures that supported what He had said (Matthew 12:3, 5; 19:4; 22:31).

Those who say that Jesus departed from the Old Testament are simply wrong. In this chapter we have demonstrated that both many Jews and most of Christianity are incorrect in their assessment of Jesus' teachings. Jesus faithfully taught the written word of the Old Testament.

We have seen earlier that Jesus was actually God in the Old Testament. God doesn't change His ways. He is eternal. It would not inspire much faith to know that He required one thing in the Old Testament but then changed His mind and came up with a wholly difsferent set of requirements in the New. Jesus Christ is consistent, "the same yesterday, today, and forever" (Hebrews 13:8).

 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Eastern Religions; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Islam; Judaism; Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: christ; god; jesus; law; sabbath
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-257 next last
To: DouglasKC
In other words, the ten commandments are the written expression of a perfect, internal, holy love of God and others.

I agree. However, our focus should be on those old commandments. We are a new creation, under a new covenant, with new commandments. John 13:34, 1 Cor 7:10 (which differs from the OT), 1 Thess 4:1-8, 1 JOhn 3:23, etc.

America has many laws which have their foundation in English law, but we are no longer under English law. In the same manner, New Testament commandments have their foundation in OT commandsm, but we are no longer under OT law.

41 posted on 01/09/2005 8:09:24 AM PST by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC
Excellent article. Thank you for posting it. I will certainly guard it.

Since it appears to me that you are one of the very few Bible followers that I know, I have a couple of questions relating to the feasts that you may know something about or possibly may direct me to the right source.

This is not, in my opinion, a salvation issue, but since your article mentions the feast days, it reminded me of something I’ve been trying to figure out for a long time. We know Y’hshua died on 14 Nisan. The next day (beginning at sundown) was the feast of Unleavened Bread, and the following day (16th) was the Feast of First Fruits. My question is how did he specifically “fulfill” this? Let me clarify a bit more. Y’hshua said in Matthew he’de be buried 3 days and 3 nights. Some say that a day is not a 24 hr. period, but could represent a part of that 24 hours, others say a day refers only to hours of daylight, and on and on. Others say that the sabbath referred to in reference to his death and resurrection was the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Some claim that the words “first day of the week” is not really what the Greek or the original Latin Vulgate says. I looked those verses up in those languages (not that I know them), but I can see the similarities of what appears as the word “sabbath” in both languages instead of “first day” as translated in English. What do you make out of all this?

May YHWH Bless you in you search for TRUTH

42 posted on 01/09/2005 9:29:16 AM PST by Harrymehome
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
then there's no doubt that the first Christians honored God by observing his feasts.
Do you have any examples that you could sight for me in the NT?

Even if there were no other references the fact that Jesus kept them should be sufficient for Christians....but nonetheless here is other scripture that proves conclusively that Christians observed God's holy days:

1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.

Here we have a specific command from Paul to Christians in Corinith to observe the days of unleavened bread. In actuality the purpose of God including this in scripture isn't because they weren't already observing the holy day, it was to show Christians the spiritual intent.

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

Another reference to the days of unleavened bread. Note that this occurred over 20 years after the death of Christ. Note also that Acts was written by a gentile 40 or 50 years after the death of Christ and God inspired him to include this reference.

Act 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

The new testament church began on a holy day, Pentecost.

Act 20:16 For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost.

Paul wanted to be at Jerusalem for Pentecost 20 years later.

Act 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Probably the feast of tabernacles. Paul tells his fellow Christians that he wants to be in Jerusalem to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Act 27:9 Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished [them],

Most scholars agree that this is a reference to the day of atonement. What's significant about it is that a gentile, Luke, writing this book under the inspiration of the holy spirit, casually includes a reference to a holy day to mark time 40 or 50 years after the death of Christ.

43 posted on 01/09/2005 9:40:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: kosta50

Excellent post


44 posted on 01/09/2005 11:32:48 AM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

Is belief in the Trinity necessary ?


45 posted on 01/09/2005 11:33:50 AM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: PFKEY
Also, what would your thoughts be on circumcision and dietary restrictions as practices by the Jews?

Scripture makes it pretty clear that circumcision is not a requirement of salvation for gentiles.

On diet, I believe that some animals are not meant to be eaten by men...are not compatible with our physiology. These animals are spelled out in Leviticus 11. But they were known long before that, since at least the time of Noah and probably right after creation. For example:

Gen 7:1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female.

So there was such a thing as clean and unclean animals in Noahs' time...it's not confined to any covenant.

The jewish religion added regulations and restrictions to these basic laws to a ridiculous extreme. The new testament spends some time undoing these ceremonial additions.

46 posted on 01/09/2005 11:45:25 AM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh
I agree. However, our focus should be on those old commandments. We are a new creation, under a new covenant, with new commandments. John 13:34, 1 Cor 7:10 (which differs from the OT), 1 Thess 4:1-8, 1 JOhn 3:23, etc.

I disagree. The 10 commandments are the objective benchmark, our school master, our tutor, the laws that tell us how we're doing in our spiritual growth. The two greatest commandments by Christ:

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The first four commandments define love of God, the last 6 love of fellow man.

I do believe that you're correct in that physically trying to keep these commandments without spiritually living them isn't profitable. In that case we're just like the Pharisees, supposdely clean and righteous on the outside, but inwardly full of rot.

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

47 posted on 01/09/2005 11:54:56 AM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC
They are not Jewish feasts, they are God's feasts:

No they are feasts that God gave TO THE JEWS as a sign, Gentiles were NEVER ordered or never was it suggested that they are are to celebrate them .

Lev 23:4 These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Doug this was written to the jews..

And since God tells us they're his feasts, and Christ kept them as an example, then there's no doubt that the first Christians honored God by observing his feasts.

Christ kept them BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW. Jesus was without sin, failing to observe the laws would have been sin. I will remind you that the Gospels were written under the Old Testament. The NEW Testament does not begin until the death of Christ.

What did he say at the last supper to the men that would build his church?

Did he say "celebrate every Passover?" or did he say 'DO this in remembrance of me'? He mover the celebration of Passover AWAY from the original Jewish holiday and instead celebrated the "Lords table" ..a command of the New Testament

When the question was asked about whether or not the Gentiles would be placed under the law they held a council . The Jerusalem Council was called specifically to resolve putting the converts under the law. The new church was at first seen as a sect of Judaism so the question was, were the gentiles now Jews and under Jewish law .The matter is discussed in Acts 15. Here is their authoritative decree concerning what Gentile converts to Christianity were obligated to do:

23 They sent this letter with them: From the apostles and elders, your brothers, to the Gentile brothers and sisters in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia, greetings!
24 Since we have heard that some have gone out from among us with no orders from us and have confused you, upsetting your minds by what they said,
25 we have unanimously decided to choose men to send to you along with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul,
26 who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas who will tell you these things themselves in person.
28 For it seemed best to the Holy Spirit and to us not to place any greater burden on you than these necessary rules:
29 that you abstain from meat that has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what has been strangled and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from doing these things, you will do well. Farewell.

Galatians is very clear on this matter Doug. Paul explains because of God's grace, Gentiles who came to salvation were not required to keep the feasts. They were expected to give up idolatry and obey the seven Noahide laws PERIOD .In Philippians chapter 3 Paul warns the saints in Philippi about Jewish legalizers. In 1 Timothy chapter 1 Paul warns Timothy and the Ephesian saints about those would-be teachers of the law, who were most surely Jews (1:3-11). In 1 Timothy 4 Paul warns about the "doctrines of demons," which involves the prohibition against eating certain foods (4:3). In Titus 1:14 Paul warns about "Jewish myths." I think one must say that the Judaisers are still with us today, and we must beware of falling into their error.

There is nothing here at all requiring Gentile believers to observe Jewish feasts. If this were a requirement, this would have been the place to say so.

Your church places you under Jewish legalism , makes salvation a work of the flesh and not one of grace and mercy .

48 posted on 01/09/2005 11:58:08 AM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr
This church denies the trinity, and so is considered a cult by most cult watch groups . One of the teachings is pretty close to Mormonism in that they believe in what they call the family of God and men being "absorbed" into God .

I have family in this group and I pray from them to come out.

Some branches have separated themselves and are moving in the direction of Christianity .

Sometimes having the back round like your link allow for good evaluation of the article from another perspective

Thanks

49 posted on 01/09/2005 12:02:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7
They are not Jewish feasts, they are God's feasts: No they are feasts that God gave TO THE JEWS as a sign, Gentiles were NEVER ordered or never was it suggested that they are are to celebrate them .
Lev 23:4 These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Doug this was written to the jews..

Does not God, in the bible, call these HIS feasts Terry? Since they ARE God's feasts, then why would you possibly object to anyone who honors God by observing his feasts?

Christ kept them BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW. Jesus was without sin, failing to observe the laws would have been sin.

Christ kept them because he is God. They are God's feasts therefore Christ kept HIS own feasts, the feasts he created:

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

There is nothing here at all requiring Gentile believers to observe Jewish feasts. If this were a requirement, this would have been the place to say so.

Three points here terry:

1. There is no record that Paul ever taught that the feasts of our Lord, Jesus Christ, were ever done away with. If he had we would see a controvery as great as the controvery they had over circumcision.
2. I've cited passages in another post that specifically show that early Christians observed the feast days of Christ.
3. There is absolutely no injunction saying that Christians can not and should not observe the holy days that Jesus Christ created.

50 posted on 01/09/2005 12:19:14 PM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC
The two greatest commandments by Christ:

Those commands were the greatest given at that time. If those OT commands were sufficient, Jesus wouldn't have given us a New Commandment in John 13:34. But He did. It's interesting that in 1 John 3:23, we read,

"And THIS is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave £us commandment.

This commandment swallows and replaces the previous "great" commandment.

51 posted on 01/09/2005 7:50:29 PM PST by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7
The New Testament is loaded with verses that clearly support the keeping of YHWH’s 10 commandment law. Below are just a few verses which all refer to the 10 commandments of the Holy Bible. The reason I say that is because there exist, which 99.9% of all so called Christians follow, a decalogue which has been changed by man, not to mention a plethora of other man-made doctrines. The Bible does not contradict itself. And with that simple thought in mind, then why are there so many verses in the New Testament, as shown below, that teach the keeping of YHWH’s 10 commandments??? But anyway let’s look at some of the verses which are so plain and simple to understand.

James 2
8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Romans 2
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

2 John 1
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

Luke 16
17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Mark 10
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

1Jo
2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo
2:5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Revelation 14
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Revelation 22
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Remember this!! You will be judged by YHWH’s Royal 10 commandment law. Not man-made law or doctrine. Not my words, but YHWH’s WORDS and teachings from HIS Most Holy Word.

May YHWH Bless You in your search for the TRUTH.

52 posted on 01/10/2005 6:44:28 AM PST by Harrymehome
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7; DouglasKC
I couldn't agree more: the Gentiles were never subject to the Law. This is even addressed directly (and resolved I would say) in Acts 5: 7-11. After the Pharisees insisted that gentiles must be circumcised and obey the Law of Moses, Peter stood up after a discussion and said:

The whole point of Christianity was to recognize the fault that through the Law one does not become just in God's eyes. One does not "earn" salvation by "being good." We cannot buy our way into heaven. It is God's mercy and nothing that we could possibly accomplish on our own that saves us. Because even when we have not sinned as infants, we were not innocent.

53 posted on 01/10/2005 7:26:54 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh
This commandment swallows and replaces the previous "great" commandment.

I actually think that commandment falls within the two greatest commandments I mentioned previously. And by the way, Jesus said that the two I listed (love God with all your mind, etc and love others as yourself were the greatest....period.:

Mar 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

54 posted on 01/10/2005 8:19:03 AM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: kosta50
The whole point of Christianity was to recognize the fault that through the Law one does not become just in God's eyes. One does not "earn" salvation by "being good." We cannot buy our way into heaven. It is God's mercy and nothing that we could possibly accomplish on our own that saves us. Because even when we have not sinned as infants, we were not innocent.

Every Christian knows this. Every Christian knows that salvation can't be earned. But every Christian SHOULD know that freedom in Christ doesn't mean the freedom to transgress God's law...the freedom to sin. The 10 commandments are God's written definition of the law of love. Christians will obey God's commandments not because they think it will earn them salvation or favor in God's eyes, but because they have a heart of obedience and love God and his commandments.

1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Let me ask you a question...is it okay with God if a Christian willfully and purposely commits adultery in an unrepentant fashion in deed and spirit? Of course it's not. Such a person probably isn't saved at all. Now why wouldn't a Christian do such a thing? It's exactly because as Christians we have God's laws written in our hearts and minds. That IS the promise of the new covenant:

Hbr 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hbr 10:16 This [is] the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Note how Paul compares the tablets of stone (the ten commandments) with the tablet of our hearts:

2Cr 3:3 [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

55 posted on 01/10/2005 8:42:18 AM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC
Does not God, in the bible, call these HIS feasts Terry? Since they ARE God's feasts, then why would you possibly object to anyone who honors God by observing his feasts?

Doug, Israel was given to the Jews should Germans move in and claim it too?

God ordained a plan that the saviour of men would come to the world through the seed of Abraham. He led and protected and disciplined and gave prophecy and signs to them about this special privilege. God is God of all things, but he did not ordain to send Jesus as a Roman.

Those Holidays were remembrances of Gods work in THE NATION OF ISRAEL, signs that he loved them and he had elected them as His people.

Read that Doug, you are not a Jew, that is not your history, Those holidays even today are a remembrance to them

You just show what low esteem you have for the work of Christ, HIS work was for men of all races and nations. That is the thing that we have to celebrate. That He had sheep from other flocks . The Jew 1st and then all mankind. You demean the gift of Christ as Saviour by needing to add to it the legalism of the Pharisees

Christ kept them BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW. Jesus was without sin, failing to observe the laws would have been sin.

Christ kept them because he is God. They are God's feasts therefore Christ kept HIS own feasts, the feasts he created:

Did Luke keep the Jewish feasts? What of Stephen the man chose as the first martyr?

Is there ANY RECORD that they were told or taught to observe the Jewish law.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Ane He has absolute right to do as he wills with what he creates.

"One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observed the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." (Romans 14:5-6a).  
"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ . . . Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations -- Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle, which all concern things which perish with the using -- according to the commandments and doctrines of men? These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh." (Col. 2:16, 20-22)

Doug, Jesus was a Jew, He was "under " Jewish law as a man . As sinless and perfect He kept the law as it was given by His Father.

That was the OT time and the OT laws . He himself heralded the beginning of the NT by celebrating the feast of Passover and changing its meaning. READ it Doug

1. There is no record that Paul ever taught that the feasts of our Lord, Jesus Christ, were ever done away with. If he had we would see a controvery as great as the controvery they had over circumcision. 2. I've cited passages in another post that specifically show that early Christians observed the feast days of Christ. 3. There is absolutely no injunction saying that Christians can not and should not observe the holy days that Jesus Christ created.

Those Holidays were given to the Jews, remain a sign to the Jews. I did not say they were " done away with" .

Point 2

The "Christians" that observed them were the JEWISH Christians , not the Roman or greek Christians.

Read the words of Paul again

"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ .

Point 3

I did not say there was an injunction , that Christian may not celebrate them. We have Christian liberty we are free to do that , but it is no spiritual benefit. It is not a command, it is not even suggested in scripture. It (law keeping) adds not one thing to our standing before God. Christ is the righteousness of the Saved believer. We have and can earn no righteousness on our own

Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

56 posted on 01/10/2005 9:39:26 AM PST by RnMomof7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC
Jesus said that the two I listed (love God with all your mind, etc and love others as yourself were the greatest....period.: Mar 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

At that time, that was true. And Jesus was talking to those under the law. But later, He gave a new commandment. Why, because the earlier two didn't cut it. They didn't result in salvation.

57 posted on 01/10/2005 12:13:49 PM PST by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: DouglasKC; RnMomof7
Doug, the Ten Commandments are God's Laws, not the laws of Moses. Peter specifically mentioned the latter. The Hebrew Law, the Levitican laws, are laws of observance and or worship. The Gentiles are not under this Law. The passage from Acts 5 specifically addresses the issue at hand -- whether Christians should be subject to Jewish law, not God's Laws. You fail to distinguish that the Jewish Law incorporates God's Laws, not the other way around. As RnMom says, the so called Law (of observance) is given to the Jews, not Gentiles.

Clearly, Apostles and early Christians rejected from the very beginning (and they were all observant Jews at that time), as evidenced in Acts 5, the notion that Gentiles are subject to the Law just as we do not consider European citizens subject to American laws but hold them to moral laws, which apply universally.

The error of Judaism is that it has monopolized God to the point that it is felt that the only way to know God is to become an observant Jew. In that, Judaism fails the Old Testament, which clearly states that "in thee all nations will be blessed." It was through the New Testament, as interpreted in Acts 5 by Saint Peter, that the God of Abraham is made known to all the nations to worship.

It is through the NT that the OT is correctly delivered.

58 posted on 01/10/2005 1:57:23 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: RnMomof7
Read that Doug, you are not a Jew, that is not your history, Those holidays even today are a remembrance to them

First of all they are not holidays. They are HOLY days. They are holy because they are imbued with the presence of the Lord.

Secondly, these holy days were not "given" to anyone. These days, as I keep stating, are God's Holy days:

Lev 23:4 These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

You can talk around this fact, try to rationalize it away, or ignore it...but it won't go away because it's the truth...scripture can't be broken.

You just show what low esteem you have for the work of Christ, HIS work was for men of all races and nations. That is the thing that we have to celebrate. That He had sheep from other flocks . The Jew 1st and then all mankind. You demean the gift of Christ as Saviour by needing to add to it the legalism of the Pharisees

On the contrary, God's holy days are for the benefit of all mankind. In the future, when Christ returns, all nations will celebrate the holy days that Christ created. The evidence of this is in the prophechies of Zechariah - :

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, [that] every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Zec 14:17 And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that [have] no [rain]; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

When Christ returns I pray that you are still not hard hearted about this issue and will keep his feast days Terry. Why wait until then though? Why not now?

Did Luke keep the Jewish feasts? What of Stephen the man chose as the first martyr?

Of course they did. These days were part of the culture and life of their society at the time...just like holidays in the United States are to most people today.

"One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observed the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." (Romans 14:5-6a).

The problem with using this verse in support of NOT observing Christ's holy days is that it doesn't mention the holy days. The NT when referring to God's Holy days uses the word:

heorte
Of uncertain affinity; a festival: - feast, holyday.

This word, or variations, occurs close to 30 times in the new testament and always refers to God's holy days.

In contrast, "day" in "observes the day" in Romans 14 is the word:

hemera
Feminine (with G5610 implied) of a derivative of ημαι hemai (to sit; akin to the base of G1476) meaning tame, that is, gentle; day, that is, (literally) the time space between dawn and dark, or the whole 24 hours (but several days were usually reckoned by the Jews as inclusive of the parts of both extremes); figuratively a period (always defined more or less clearly by the context): - age, + alway, (mid-) day (by day, [-ly]), + for ever, judgment, (day) time, while, years

Hemera is used 387 times in the NT but is never used to refer specifically to a holy day. I urge you to research this usage on your own.

Those Holidays were given to the Jews, remain a sign to the Jews. I did not say they were " done away with" .

Holy days Terry, holy days. If they were not done away with then they are still holy. Your creator and mine still have feast days that they made holy.

The "Christians" that observed them were the JEWISH Christians , not the Roman or greek Christians.

I think the burden of proof is on you for this. Paul specifically tells "jewish" christians and gentile christians alike to celebrate at least one holy day:

1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast (heortazo), not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened [bread] of sincerity and truth.

"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ .

That does not mean what you think it means. Explain this: Paul wrote this, by most scholars estimates, over 20 years after the death of Christ. Yet Paul says that the feast days ARE...not WERE...ARE a shadow of things to come. ARE a shadow. Why does Paul believe, 20 years after the death of Christ, that the feast days ARE a shadow of things yet future, things yet to come? The answer of course is that they are. Christ will return...the fall feasts picture the return of Christ and the millenial kingdom.

did not say there was an injunction , that Christian may not celebrate them. We have Christian liberty we are free to do that , but it is no spiritual benefit.

On the contrary I've found that observing God's feast days have great spiritual benefits. That's why God made them. God does nothing in vain.

You should study on this topic some more. Try reading God's Holy Day Plan . I know that you've already rejected the celebration of Christmas as being a non-Christian tradition. This is the same. Man by his tradiiton has usurped the wisdom of God and made God's holy days irrelevent to most Christians. That's shameful.

59 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:00 PM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Harrymehome
Others say that the sabbath referred to in reference to his death and resurrection was the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Some claim that the words “first day of the week” is not really what the Greek or the original Latin Vulgate says. I looked those verses up in those languages (not that I know them), but I can see the similarities of what appears as the word “sabbath” in both languages instead of “first day” as translated in English. What do you make out of all this?

I didn't mean to ignore your post on this. I've sat down and started writing a response many times, but it's a huge subject.

I believe that "first day of the week" when referring to the resurrection of Christ is more properly rendered "the first of the sabbaths".

The wave sheaf offering in the OT represented the ascension of Christ:

Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.

The "first of the sabbaths" is the beginning of the count of sabbaths until the feast of Pentecost (also called the feast of weeks):

Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

The wave sheaf would always occur on what we call Sunday, the day Christ ascended to the father.

Here are some good resources for your study.

Wave Sheaf Offering Day

The Wave Sheaf Offering

Good luck and God bless.

60 posted on 01/10/2005 8:41:56 PM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 241-257 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson