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To: RnMomof7
They are not Jewish feasts, they are God's feasts: No they are feasts that God gave TO THE JEWS as a sign, Gentiles were NEVER ordered or never was it suggested that they are are to celebrate them .
Lev 23:4 These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Doug this was written to the jews..

Does not God, in the bible, call these HIS feasts Terry? Since they ARE God's feasts, then why would you possibly object to anyone who honors God by observing his feasts?

Christ kept them BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW. Jesus was without sin, failing to observe the laws would have been sin.

Christ kept them because he is God. They are God's feasts therefore Christ kept HIS own feasts, the feasts he created:

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

There is nothing here at all requiring Gentile believers to observe Jewish feasts. If this were a requirement, this would have been the place to say so.

Three points here terry:

1. There is no record that Paul ever taught that the feasts of our Lord, Jesus Christ, were ever done away with. If he had we would see a controvery as great as the controvery they had over circumcision.
2. I've cited passages in another post that specifically show that early Christians observed the feast days of Christ.
3. There is absolutely no injunction saying that Christians can not and should not observe the holy days that Jesus Christ created.

50 posted on 01/09/2005 12:19:14 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Does not God, in the bible, call these HIS feasts Terry? Since they ARE God's feasts, then why would you possibly object to anyone who honors God by observing his feasts?

Doug, Israel was given to the Jews should Germans move in and claim it too?

God ordained a plan that the saviour of men would come to the world through the seed of Abraham. He led and protected and disciplined and gave prophecy and signs to them about this special privilege. God is God of all things, but he did not ordain to send Jesus as a Roman.

Those Holidays were remembrances of Gods work in THE NATION OF ISRAEL, signs that he loved them and he had elected them as His people.

Read that Doug, you are not a Jew, that is not your history, Those holidays even today are a remembrance to them

You just show what low esteem you have for the work of Christ, HIS work was for men of all races and nations. That is the thing that we have to celebrate. That He had sheep from other flocks . The Jew 1st and then all mankind. You demean the gift of Christ as Saviour by needing to add to it the legalism of the Pharisees

Christ kept them BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW. Jesus was without sin, failing to observe the laws would have been sin.

Christ kept them because he is God. They are God's feasts therefore Christ kept HIS own feasts, the feasts he created:

Did Luke keep the Jewish feasts? What of Stephen the man chose as the first martyr?

Is there ANY RECORD that they were told or taught to observe the Jewish law.

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Ane He has absolute right to do as he wills with what he creates.

"One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observed the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." (Romans 14:5-6a).  
"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ . . . Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations -- Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle, which all concern things which perish with the using -- according to the commandments and doctrines of men? These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh." (Col. 2:16, 20-22)

Doug, Jesus was a Jew, He was "under " Jewish law as a man . As sinless and perfect He kept the law as it was given by His Father.

That was the OT time and the OT laws . He himself heralded the beginning of the NT by celebrating the feast of Passover and changing its meaning. READ it Doug

1. There is no record that Paul ever taught that the feasts of our Lord, Jesus Christ, were ever done away with. If he had we would see a controvery as great as the controvery they had over circumcision. 2. I've cited passages in another post that specifically show that early Christians observed the feast days of Christ. 3. There is absolutely no injunction saying that Christians can not and should not observe the holy days that Jesus Christ created.

Those Holidays were given to the Jews, remain a sign to the Jews. I did not say they were " done away with" .

Point 2

The "Christians" that observed them were the JEWISH Christians , not the Roman or greek Christians.

Read the words of Paul again

"So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ .

Point 3

I did not say there was an injunction , that Christian may not celebrate them. We have Christian liberty we are free to do that , but it is no spiritual benefit. It is not a command, it is not even suggested in scripture. It (law keeping) adds not one thing to our standing before God. Christ is the righteousness of the Saved believer. We have and can earn no righteousness on our own

Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

56 posted on 01/10/2005 9:39:26 AM PST by RnMomof7
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