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More modernist psychobabble from a bishop in full communion with the Holy See.
1 posted on 11/28/2004 3:42:05 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena; dennisw; Alouette

Judging by their fruit, it seems logical to come to the conclusion that muslims worship the god of destruction. Greek Apollyon, Hebrew Abaddon... those are much closer in nature to this muslim diety called allah. From the bottomless pit no less. I'd say it's a match.


33 posted on 11/28/2004 7:31:11 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: AskStPhilomena
Excerpt from National [non]Catholic Reporter, March 13, 1998:

A church without room for all is empty

That may sound overly harsh. Certainly Catholics do not head to church to fulfill some racist agenda. Quite the contrary. But as Braxton points out, the church of today is, in significant ways, a product of racist presumptions. From our art and iconography to the cultural presumptions whites make about worship styles, the pressure builds behind Braxton's haunting question: "Who would want to join a faith in which all the spiritual `personalities' are visualized to look like the very people who enslaved and oppressed them?"

A church without room for allah is empty --hooray for diversity at all costs!

/sarcasm off

35 posted on 11/28/2004 7:34:49 PM PST by DBeers
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To: AskStPhilomena

Bishop Braxton is less than thoughtful and certainly ignorant of Christian doctrine.


36 posted on 11/28/2004 7:36:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: AskStPhilomena

The title is deliberately provocative, but this article raises a good point. Is there one God or many? Is god universal, Omnipotent, infinite? I thought these were cornerstones of belief.

Yet if this is true, then all these Gods are simply one God. A wise man, asked what God was, once said, "I don't know, but I know there is only one."

Now, if there is only one God, then all teh gods of the various religions are just mere names for the same God: Allah, Jehovah, Jahweh, Waheguru, Atman, God, etc. It matters not to God what you call God. Call God Fred for all God cares. But it matters a great deal to you, for it determines how you see God, and how you see God is how God will show up in your life.


44 posted on 11/28/2004 8:46:38 PM PST by TBP
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To: AskStPhilomena

Christians and Jews worship the same God. Muslims worship a foreign god that their fathers did not know.


48 posted on 11/28/2004 9:40:03 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: AskStPhilomena; Coleus; cyborg

'Salamuh LAYkum brothers and sister! Does this mean Father Willy will be serving Bean Pies after Midnight Mass?


49 posted on 11/28/2004 9:42:44 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: AskStPhilomena

Yeah right! And I'm my own Grampa too.


51 posted on 11/28/2004 9:44:42 PM PST by Bullish
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To: AskStPhilomena

Garbage.

The Jews worship the Father only (though Jesus says they rejected the Father when they rejected the Son)...

The Christians worship the Triune God in the Blessed Trinity.

The Muslims worship the bloodthirsty (false, pagan) Arab Moon god and some meteorite in Mecca.


55 posted on 11/28/2004 10:45:07 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: AskStPhilomena; Steel Wolf; bikepacker67; Lazamataz; FreedomSurge; Canticle_of_Deborah; Salman; ...
In response to the hostile e-mails I've received as a result of my previous post stating that the bishop is a heretic:

The answer to the question of whether the islamists believe in the same God as Catholics, Baptists, and all other Christians believe is the one and only true God, came directly from "Allah" himself in the form of a short chapter of the Quran. This is chapter 112 which reads:

"In the name of God (Allah), the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone."

All Christian faiths believe that Jesus was the begotten son of God and further believe that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." [John 3:16] The true God sacrificed His only Son so that we, who put our faith in His Son, will not spend eternity separated from Him.

The Catholic Church holds that Jesus was the Son of God and died on the cross for us. This is the dogma of the Church. This Bishop's statement renounces the dogma of the Church and proves that he is a heretic and such he is to be condemned and excommunicated.

71 posted on 11/29/2004 8:34:59 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: AskStPhilomena
Islam has a rich history of culture, scholarship and care for those in need. Certainly the vast majority of its adherents interpret the Koran as a path for peace not war. If current events make us painfully aware that a small, vocal, fanatical and influential minority harbor a fierce hatred for the United States, perhaps more for political, economic and cultural reasons than for theological ones, we should be mindful of the unfortunate history of Christianity, during which Christians were equally fierce in their conflicts with Muslims, to whom they referred as savages and pagans.

A lot that was preceding this was possibly valid, and no doubt there are muslims who can live and let live. But the vast majority do not as one condem these acts and turn in the evil doers. Christianity and Judaism had ruthless periods and have gotton over them and would in fact denounce anyong raging war in the name of religion. As I said, the silence (and lack of action) by the muslims living in the west (and even in the Middle East) is surprising. Even the savage murder of muslims who cooperate with the US in Iraq is not enough to cause a massive retaliation against the radical elements. I could see the war in Iraq over in a week if this article had any sense of validity. I will count out a week and see if we all worship the same one G-d.

80 posted on 11/29/2004 11:16:42 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: AskStPhilomena

I worship allah every time I stand at a urinal.


83 posted on 11/29/2004 11:22:59 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: AskStPhilomena
This forum should be called: "The House of Babble-on"!

Fr. Brian Harrison, O.S. is no enemy of “The Remnant” publication. It might do some of you people some good to read his article at Catholic Answers entitled:
“Muslims Worship the One True God -Only Their ‘Receiving Apparatus’ Is Defective” By Fr. Brian W. Harrison, O.S.

Also, For anyone really interested in the matter - visit Fr. Joe Horn's at 100% Catholic Forum which points out that "Christians were the first to use this name in this form: ('Bism El-Lah al Rahaman al Rahim' = In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit') to indicate their belief in the Holy Trinity, more than two hundred years before Islam"!

Bro. Ignatius Mary at St Mike's Forum goes further into the matter on "all religions are not as good as another" etc.

106 posted on 11/30/2004 3:00:14 AM PST by Sean O L
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To: AskStPhilomena
First John, Chapter 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are
gone out into the world.

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that
confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is
come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist,
whereof ye have heard that it should come; 
and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:
because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in  
the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world,
and the world heareth them.

6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is 
not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of 
truth, and the spirit of error.

109 posted on 11/30/2004 6:34:43 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: AskStPhilomena

He's in full communion with insanity too.


122 posted on 11/30/2004 3:47:25 PM PST by spunkets
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