Posted on 11/16/2004 11:29:34 AM PST by GregY
The bishops have apparently now voted Bishop Trautman as head of the Bishops Committee on the Liturgy. This is horrible, horrible news for those of us who are more traditional on matters liturgical. In this America article, Bishop Trautman expresses his views about the wretched oppression Rome is visiting upon the Church with its attempts to reform the liturgy.
When the schism does come, which it will, I pray that the Pope will be on our side.
Let's keep the faith!
A draft letter for consideration:
Excellency,
It is with serious concern that I write concerning the nomination of Bishop Trautman as head of the USCCB Committee on the Liturgy. I urge you to oppose this nomination given Bishop Trautman’s open condemnations of Liturgiam Authenticam as stated in America issue 12, Volume 185, October 22, 2001. I believe that to appoint as head of the Liturgy Committee a Bishop who disagrees with the Vatican on the Liturgy is non-sequitur.
Bishop Trautman’s musing is clear in its defense of a thirty year custom, but gives no honor to the two thousand years of preceding tradition and reasoning. While Bishop Trautman’s parsing of words in the liturgy may be accommodating to contemporary secular society, it is in open defiance of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments. To argue: “In many aspects the document is a disappointment; its compass needs to be reset.” is to place Catholics in the United States at odds with the Universal Church.
I have no doubt that this Bishop truly seeks to serve God and the faithful, but given these extremist views, I do not believe he is the proper choice for this important post. I believe that vocations to the priesthood—one of our most dire challenges—are directly proportional to the respect and reverence within our celebration of the Eucharist. Liturgical abuses drag the sacrament toward the errors of the reformationist rites; lacking distinction, there is then no inspiration of call to Holy Orders.
Excellency, I again beseech you to consider these thoughts in your deliberations.
---It may not change things, but in the tradition of St. Francis, Patron of Catholic action, we clarify to the bishops our knowledge and scrutiny.
That's not "next." Animal sacrifice is already being incorporated as part of the "inculturation" of the Mass in South Africa.
"What's next? Animal sacrifice?
That's not "next." Animal sacrifice is already being incorporated as part of the "inculturation" of the Mass in South Africa."
And soon to be brought to an immigrant (or immigrant pretender) community in our country?
"We will have our Mass! We will have our Michaelmas!....."
Bishop John Kinney moved that Bp Trautman's name be placed on the ballot with Cdl Rigali and Bp Vigneron for a vote to select the next Chairman of the Liturgy Committee.
Bp Kinney had written "seconds" of his motion from the following 5 bishops:
Bp Stephen Blaire - Stockton CA - A=62 - PC= Cdl Mahony, PCC= Bp Ziemann
Bp Donald Pelotte - Gallup NM - A=59 - PC= Abp Robert Sanchez, PCC= Anthony Pilla
Bp Gerald Wilkerson - Aux LA - A=65 - PC= Cdl Mahony
Bp Victor Balke - Crookston Minn. - A=73 - PC= Abp John R. Roach
Bp Alexander Salazar - Aux LA - A=54 - PC= Cdl Mahony
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BP Kinney - Saint Cloud, Minn. - A=67 - PC= Abp John R. Roach
Notes:
"PC" = Principal Consecrator of the ordination of that bishop.
"PCC" = Principal Co-Consecrator.
"A" = Age.
Cardinal Mahony was the principal Consecrator of 3 of the above bishops.
Abp Roach was the PC of 2 of the above bishops.
Abp Sanchez and Bp Pilla have had serious problems.
Bishops Kinney and Balke are both from Minnesota.
The name "Blaire" might be Blair but probably not.
The above data was obtained Here and from watching/taping EWTN.
The 1st ballot votes were: Rigali 90, Vigneron 32, Trautman 115
The 2nd ballot votes were: Rigali 105, Vigneron 7, Trautman 127= 53%
51%+ is required.
It looks to me that Mahony and/or his followers were behind this floor nomination of Trautman. They probably asked Kinney to lead the way and provide another willing follower to help keep the focus off of LA and Mahony.
There's going to be an asperges ceremony?
If the special crystal vessel is ready (all metals, including gold and silver, melt), should we try it with the anhydrous perchloric acid batch I've been preparing? Needs to be blessed though.
I'm assuming this is a masonry building we're talking about. Also, that our guests will be placed in - what I will explain to OSHA as - a "hooded area".
Goggles will have to be worn by all. No way around that.
A dignified letter that would be expected of a saint to write.
I think the Holy Water, properly blessed would be more painful. ;-)
AHA! Brilliant point!
Our "priests" have already used various ethnic groups (or pretenders, as you hinted) as vehicles to purpotrate liturgical mayhem.
Hispanics were the first group so used. First it was the "spanish music". HINT: there was no such thing in their various home countries, as they would sing very traditional hymns, or gregorian chant.....and no guitarras!!!! Or rocks, bricks, etc. as acompaniement! You must realize that I am going back to 1970-72 when Spanish masses were pioneered in the heady early years of the Novus Ordo.
Such music was hastily written by wannabe composers (who were AMERICAN!!!!!) to artificially create this nightmare. Of course if an evil ANglo parishioner complained they were told that "it is the way of the people"...."they do it this way in their country".......or, the clincher "you are prejudiced"!
This was used as a motive force to drive out conservative/orthodox pew sitters in urban parishes (and ultimately from the neighborhood themselves. And it worked brilliantly! They were simply made to feel unwelcome in their own parish!
The same is now being done with the "African-American" liturgies. It is oh so wonderful to have everybody in the sanctuary wearing Kente cloth, and tribal costumes. To have liturgical African dance. To have women leaping and prancing about bearing bowls of insence in procession......even in St. Patrick's Cathedral! And the music!
All Gospel/Contemporary.....all screaming into micrphones at 130 decibels........hand waving.......shouting and jumping up.......clapping hands & tambourines.....swaying and shaking a tailfeather......
When the priest preaches - especially if he is white - he does so in the loudest possible "black style". Amen, brother!
You would think that you were in the worst of steriotypical storefront churches. As if it were Flip Wilson's Rev. Leroy in the Church of What's Happening Now!
Of course if you complain - you are not merely old fashioned or retrograde - you are a RACIST!!!!!!! Yes, our 90% white faced clerics have learned all too well how to play the race card.
Just remember that all of this......all of this was planned, strategised and carried out by your good friends in the USCCB.
And its all coming soon to a parish near you.
Dont't believe my last sentance? Well, I know of a parish in an all white rural town where the music is directed by a gay couple, and all they do is gospel/contemporary....and have been doing so for a long time. The choir library contains NO music which is classical at all. This has been under three or four pastors in a row. They will not be asked to leave - guaranteed.
They are fufilling the "agenda" to a "t".
Get your tambourines ready..........
TotusTuus is put to shame. Relying on the goods of this world, he forgets the invisible realities expressed through simplicity of the Holy Sacramentals.
Sorry but I have to correct you. Egan was Cardional Cody's right hand man in Chicago. That is damning enough by itself. But he was also very close to Bernadin.
Over some 40 years - in Chicago, Bridgeport CT, and in NYC - Egan has made a career of hiding, shuffling around, and defending in the most cognizant and conniving manner the priests guilty of sex crimes. What he has done was done on purpose, knowingly, conspiratorially. Jail is too good for him.
Regarding the financial mess in the Archdiocese of New York, let me fill in the blanks for you. I will not identify the sources for this, so don't ask.
Under O'Connor, Egan was an Auxiliary bishop, and also was the Secretary for Education. Egan, in collusion with Msgr. (later also Auxiliary bishop of Ny, as well as Chancellor and Vicar General) Henry Mansell - now AB of Hartford CT - devised a plan, which they sold to O'Connor which nearly bankrupted the Archdiocese of New York.
Playing up to O'Connor's deep need to be loved and to be perceived as a hero to the poor, their plan was to raise capital funds to endow the support of the inner city schools of the diocese, and to establish a foundation for getting public and private grants/gifts to throw money into what is literally a "black hole".
Please bear in mind that these "Catholic" schools are Catholic in name only, as they serve a mostly non-Catholic student body, in most cases. Also, those of us who are in a position to know such things, know all too well that much embezzling is done in and through the schools finances by apostate priests. I know of one priest who was taking $50,000 per year from the school. He did not get caught - neither do 90% of them, though the Chancery knows of these things.
Back to the Egan/Mansell plot. They did in fact establish the "Inner City Scholarship Fund". However, the attempt to establish the $10 million endowment fund failed. So, they persuaded Cardinal O'Connor to spend vast sums of money - pumping it into the parish schools.........right into the grubby little palms of the embezzling clerics.
For over 14 years, Cardinal O'Connor spent down the PRINCIPAL of the Archdiocesan Endowments funds. I want you to re-read that and let it sink in. He was talked into this, and out of his misplaced desire to be loved by the poor (whom he foolishly thought would actually be helped by this) he did this of his own free will......for over 14 years.
This is plainly financial suicide. At the same time, o'Connor was encouraged by Mansell, Egan, and other like minded syncophants to enlarge the Chancery beaurocracy to unbelievable levels.
To make a joke, descriptive of the situation - there might as well have been a Hispanic Affairs Office, the Hispanic Apostolate, Ministry of Hispanic Affairs, and the Spanish-Speaking Apostolate.........all with their own paid staff, offices, and budget, paid for by this rapidly dwindling Endowment Fund. Of course the parishes were also heavily "taxed" on a monthly basis to pay for this, and there was a huge revamping of the Annual Cardinal's Appeal, reaping very large returns.......none of which were saved or invested!
You must also realize that Egan and Mansell were the architects of the "Realingment Plan" which was to close over half of the churches in Manhattan, and sell the extremely valuable real estate. Cardinal O'Connor wisely balked at this plan, as he did not want to cause such widespread, and irrevokable destruction, which would have deeply offended the people of the Archdiocese who did indeed love him greatly. Thank God for that!
Rising from his deathbed, a few months before he ultimately died from brain cancer, Cardinal O'Connor flew to Rome to beg and plead with the Pope personally, and with the Congregation for Bishops that they NOT appoint Egan as his sucessor. What did O'Connor know of and fear in Egan....whom he personally consecrated as his Auxiliary Bishop in 1983?
Several things. One of them was that "realingment plan" to close many, many churches. Egan was a prime contender for the See of NY, and bragged openly that if he went there that he would be going in to close down churches. Another thing is that he is vehemently opposed to the Pro-life movement. And there are other things.
The first thing which Egan did in his first business day at 1011 First Avenue (Chancery Office of NY) was to order the acquisition of 30 building demolition permnits from the NYC Buildings Department. This was a "done deal". A nearly 20 year old "done deal". And another factor is that he was warmly received by the mostly dissident/apostate priests here......who had been literally salivating for the church closing plan to go into effect. This was a long standing plot, just waiting for the right Bishop to effect it.
Any priest or bishop who salivates for the mass closings of churches serves the Devil. Literally. They know not Christ. I will stand on that statement.
"impugn Egan"????? There is not enough bandwidth here to do the job properly.
Point taken!
I think it was sitetest who had a tagline on the order of, 'everyone gets so exicted about toasting a few of heretics...'
Eagan's no Bruskiewicz, that's for sure.
I hear he has really had some problems trying to bring fiscal responsibility to the diocese. I guess he had quite a financial mess staring him in the face.
News to me. I thought O'Connor was supposed to be a good administrator.
For the record,he came back from Rome,was made an auxiliary in New York and three years later went to Bridgeport Conn. as Bishop. He was returned to New York on the death of Cardinal O'Conner.
I didn't remember/know that he was here before. I see I got the CT part right.
Cardinal Bernardin,standing on "common ground" garbed in his "seamless garment"....
Oh please! I'm eating dinner! LOL!
He not only theologically trashed Chicago, but it was disgusting how he so obviously set up the "Common Ground" thing to be his legacy.
I know what you mean, e.g., any liturgical publication that comes out of Chicago should be tossed in the garbage. No need to read it first.
I don't think it''s fair to impugn Egan for a relationship that wasn't,his deficiencies can stand on his own shoulders.
I agree. One must be careful not to spread inaccuracies about any public figure, let alone a Bishop.
You're welcome. :o)
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