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Posted on 11/10/2004 8:12:49 AM PST by sionnsar
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When I think of the Orthodox Church, I think of the Greek Orthodox Church - is that what he is referring to?
Your comments and opinion please.
"When I think of the Orthodox Church, I think of the Greek Orthodox Church - is that what he is referring to?"
The Greek Orthodox Church is one of the Orthodox Churches. There are also Russian, Serbia, Antiochian and Romanian Orthodox Churches. They are pretty much all in communion with one another, and someone who has been baptized in one is generally accepted by all of them.
They are run by autocephelous patriarchs, who are elected by the upper clergy. The patriachs are coequal, and church policy can only be changed at ecumenical councils with representatives from all the Orthodox Churchs. In reality the last one was held in the 6th or 7th century, and the churches pretty much go their own ways.
There is also an autocephalous church here, the
Orthodox Church in America of which I am a member.
In fact, there are fifteen canonical Orthodox Churches
around the world and may others that come under the jurisdiction
of one of those fifteen (e.g. Finland, Japan, Uganda, etc.)
We all share the same faith but different languages and cultures.
By the way, I am also na ex-Amglican. When I hear an
Anglican service with it's beautiful music and reverent
worship, I get emotional about the loss of that tradition.
I can never go back. It is all turning to dust due to the
contagion of unbelief and apostasy.
May God have mercy on the faithful still fighting for the faith.
There is also the Russian Orthodox Church. Neither of these two churches should be confused with the Eastern Catholic Churches.
BTW, for those Anglicans who may be in a similar situation, unsure of where to look or how to proceed, it may interest you to know that there are 22 different liturgies recognized by the Catholic Church, including the Anglican Rite Liturgy. The Catholic Church is both Western and Eastern. You can discover more about this diversity, at this link.
Here is the Anglican Use Rite liturgy:
It lives on in the Continuum.
There is also a Western Rite within Orthodoxy (under the Antiochian archdiocese) and there was a western-rite mission here in Oregon but it closed because its priest is in ill health.
Each year, on All Saints day (June in our calendar), our choir closes the service with Vaugh Williams' "For all the Saints". Many of us ex-Anglicans join in. I can hardly get the words out - it chokes me up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a convinced Orthodox. I'm home. But I still feel the loss.
Oh my yes! When we (in our APCK parish) sing that one (#126, 1940 HB, "For all the saints, who from their labors rest...") I am sure the rafters are shaking; maybe it's just that that one stays well within the range most of us can sing, but we go full-throat with that one.
But I confess a weakness for Pange Lingua (#199, 1940 HB, "Now, my tongue, the mystery telling..."), and especially Adoro Devote (#204, 1940 HB, "Humbly I adore thee, Verity unseen...").
It is funny. As a child I was bored stiff by the 1928 BCP liturgy, but now I am beginning to be aware of and awed by its beauty and majesty, even if the language is not exakly modurn Merican.
I once heard that it is a short reach from (pre-Fall) Episcopalianism to Russian Orthodox. I confess to a tremendous amouont of ignorance here, and especially in anything to do with the label "Orthodox." Is it that close?
Oregon. Um. Um. You will shortly have FReepmail!
Weeelllll... I don't want to say a short jump but it may be a shorter jump than from most other western churches. I'm assuming a high-church, fully sacramental Anglican rather than an Evangelical Anglican (not that I want to put them down).
What Orthodoxy is not compatible with is the deadly Elizabethan compromise -- a position which I really believe is responsible for today's apostasy (although that wasn't the original intent).
For those who don't know, Elizabeth I decided that the Church od England would be unified by common liturgy not by common doctrine. Grant that and everything else is downhill.
Paul (aka Newberger)
I think many people are hungry for a faith that DOESN'T adapt to the culture. We need a faith that is more anchored than the whims of the present day.
Thank you very much for posting this, sionnsar. It is very helpful to me.
I have promised to stay with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America until the "gay votes" next August. (This is mainly to help other orthodox/conservative Lutherans.) After that, I must decide whether to become Orthodox. I ask God every day to show me which way I should go.
Grace and peace!
HS
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I'm another ex-Episcopalian / ex-Anglican who ran to Orthodoxy in the wake of the BCP nightmare and the Priestess heresy in the late '70's. We've been Orthodox since late 1978. The only thing I miss is the body of Christmas Carols. The liturgical chanting of the Church, regardless of the jurisdiction, is so rich that listening to Protestant hymns is a "thin" experience, indeed.
If you want to hear the richness of Orthodoxy, tune in to Ancient Faith Radio - available 24/7 at:
http://www.ancientfaithradio.com
You'll need RealPlayer, and a broadband connection makes it a much nicer experience.
The UglyFrog
"Let us make a vow to ourselves, that from this day, from this hour, from this very moment, we shall strive above all else to love God and to fulfill His Holy Will!" - St. Herman of Alaska
Is it a speculative wonder, or have they really thought about it? Have they written down their experiences? I'm curious.
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