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PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES [A good summary of SOME key evidences--QX]
CONTENDER MINISTRIES ^ | 11 JUL 2004 | JENNIFER RAST

Posted on 11/07/2004 8:40:35 PM PST by Quix

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To: concretebob

From what I remember, these beings were NOT created in the image of God... i.e. they were intelligent, but were not triunal beings such as we are... kind of like extremely intelligent animals comprised of a physical body and a spirit... so they were not held with the same affection or chance at salvation as we are... once the body was dead, there was only the spirit... no sole there to save.


1,241 posted on 12/21/2004 3:22:52 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
However, in Revelations, John describes creatures coming out of the ground, from out of the abyss.
I could start another thread on this subject.
Whatever John saw in his vision/dream, there were a LOT of them.
"and they were as locusts"...in the Bible, "locusts" means a WHOLE LOT.
We could go in two directions at this point, regarding where they come from.
One direction must pre-suppose one major item: underground bases are real, and much larger than we could imagine.
The other direction is the supernatural, where the evil spirits inhabit the Earth.

These are just my opinions

1,242 posted on 12/21/2004 3:24:03 PM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: Safrguns
Unless they had the ability to project their spirit, and soul, into a human form.
We're talking shape-shifters here.
Supernatural powers, ability to travel from planet to planet, God created them to run things.
I doubt He would have restricted the methods and powers required to run a universe.
Satan told God he had been walking up and down "in the Earth", when God asked him where he'd been.
What's that mean? Damn if I know, but if I'm supposed to take it literally, I'm ready.
1,243 posted on 12/21/2004 3:42:04 PM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: concretebob

gotta run for awhile... be back later tonight


1,244 posted on 12/21/2004 3:44:13 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns; concretebob; Alamo-Girl; All

Safr, CB, A-G,

I'm not remotely as informed on this topic as you folks. I have read the Scriptures several times.

I don't have any reason to disagree with anything you folks have said.

OH, BTW, the SciFi channel is having 3 UFO shows on tonight.

I suspect a major factor in demons wanting bodies is some way to impact our time/space dimension and particularly man in destructive vengeful ways.

Have always felt that void and without form as the world was before ADAM meant it's shape after God mushed everything all up from whatever civilization etc. existed before. Who but God knows how many times He's done such a thing. Quite a boot camp to rear rulers in!

If you still have access to the co-worker with Einsetin, I have some questions to forward along. That would be the 2nd sort of access I've had of that sort. First one was deceased and I became a friend of his daughter.

Thanks tons for the dialogue.

BTW, the first show on Sci Fi on now is Rendlesham forest incident


1,245 posted on 12/21/2004 4:04:05 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob

Blessed and honored by your posts and replies. THX TONS.


1,246 posted on 12/21/2004 4:06:47 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Safrguns

Interesting about #2 question. I have no idea but am keenly interested.

I have long felt that God could easily create infinite numbers more of angles for His side, were that His desire. He may have set up some 'game rules' for this reality which preclude that but I consider it His option. I don't think God would be the least bit threatened by satan's 1/3 angels if the other 2/3 were on vacation; in a deep sleep or just ceased to exist. God's Spoken Word and Holy Spirit are sufficient, each alone, imho.

In any case, satan's goose is cooked along with that of all his forces. They know it. They are on a vengeance trip. Satan may have deluded his forces that they might be able to overcome God. But satan knows his goose is cooked. The Bible is clear about that. imho.


1,247 posted on 12/21/2004 4:12:18 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob

Yes. I love that sort of teacher, too.


1,248 posted on 12/21/2004 4:13:15 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob

no more so than UFO chasers?

Wash your mouth out! LOL.

Actually, I might want to watch--but from a distance!


1,249 posted on 12/21/2004 4:14:10 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Safrguns

Interesting conjectures, concepts.

Not sure therefore what at this point in time.

Will be interesting to know in eternity.


1,250 posted on 12/21/2004 4:17:27 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob

The out of the earth and within the earth Scriptures have always troubled me.

In any case, it looks like our era shall find out more literally and specifically what's involved. Either option sounds like no fun, to me--except when we are kicking arse in The Lord's name and power against the forces of evil therefrom.

There was a prophecy before the Iraq war. It was a bit confusing--that God would really prefer that we not go into the war. But that it was kind of set-up that we would--whether by the puppet masters or satan or ??? I don't know. But the msg from God was that IF WE DID go into Iraq, there would be a release of massive hoards of demonic forces from within the earth in that region. Supposedly it related to ancient history of that region in terms of demonic forces etc. as well as things reserved for the end times.

Certainly plenty of evil has seemed to escalate since then.


1,251 posted on 12/21/2004 4:20:54 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob
Safrguns..You sound just like me. I swear, I was reading your post, thinking to myself, "when did I post this?"...:)

Hehe... are you a programmer?


1,252 posted on 12/21/2004 6:58:37 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Quix
If you still have access to the co-worker with Einsetin, I have some questions to forward along.

He's over 90 years old now... I speak to him on rare occasions. I knew him when we were living in GA... about 5-6 years ago. I miss him a lot. He told me once that he was actually allowed to see his guardian angel on one occasion... even knows his name. If you want to freep mail me questions, I could see what I can do... besides... I would love to see the questions. It's my favorite way of learning more about God.


1,253 posted on 12/21/2004 7:11:15 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
Not even close.
I'm just learning HTML.
See my about page.
1,254 posted on 12/21/2004 7:17:15 PM PST by concretebob (but what do I know, I'm just an ignorant peasant)
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To: Quix
I have long felt that God could easily create infinite numbers more of angles for His side, were that His desire.

I'm sure He could too... but I don't think that's the way He works. He knew from the outset how many He would need, how many He would lose through rebellion... etc, etc.

Another interesting thing to note is that pro-creation is something which is unique or limited to the physical realm. Angels are not given in marriage, they don't re-produce, they don't die. Even man is said to be in a non-procreative form in heaven. The only exception I'm aware of is where angels had relations with the daughters of men, producing the giants... but again, the physical realm was involved. So, the multitude of demons (which surely were not created by God for evil) must have originated in the physical realm through procreation.


1,255 posted on 12/21/2004 7:27:07 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Quix
OH, BTW, the SciFi channel is having 3 UFO shows on tonight.

I'm pretty much convinced that the UFO thing is going to increase exponentially over the coming years. The fact that we are not alone in the universe is going to become blatently obvious as the coming signs and wonders God fortells will leave aetheists no where to turn but to aliens. Mass alien abductions will also be the most plausible secular explanation for the sudden disappearance of billions of christians overnight.


1,256 posted on 12/21/2004 7:35:08 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

Plausible to me.

THX.


1,257 posted on 12/21/2004 7:38:09 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: concretebob

Programmer... Analytical Engineer... Whats the difference?
I should have said analyst... to me the two words are interchangeable.


1,258 posted on 12/21/2004 7:38:17 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

I agree with you.

I think we will see a marked change even this year somehow.


1,259 posted on 12/21/2004 7:39:28 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
Thank you for posts and for keeping me "in the loop" wrt y'alls discussion! Sadly, I'm not of much use to you when the discussion goes beyond ancient manuscripts.

I find modern day prophesies interesting but don't spend much time on them and certainly don't get upset about predictions of tribulation - because if that is God's will, then Maranatha! Jesus is coming!

1,260 posted on 12/21/2004 7:53:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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