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To: quidestveritas
The hierarchy of the Catholic Church has no right to change the Mass

Actually, my friend, they do. The problem is that in the most recent case, Satan affected them enough to give us a ridiculous clown show with rarely a modicum of reverence or dignity. However, even the most hideous and clownish protestantized NO Mass is a valid Mass if they follow enough of the rubrics for it to be so.

Ugly, clownish, banal, gay, unfocused, irreverent, liberal and stupid may please certain folks as much as it disgusts you and I, but it does not necessarily make the Mass invalid. If the Pope says we must stand on our heads for three minutes of every Mass, then you will see me standing on my head (and grumbling, of course).

(Shhhhh! Don't let that standing on the head thing get out, or the lavender liberal modernists might make it the newest innovation in the Amchurch liturgy.)
530 posted on 08/16/2004 12:21:34 AM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts national defense.)
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To: broadsword

The new mass and its implementation were in oppositon to the law of God as given in Quas Pimas by Pope St. Pius V. This law is the law in perpetuity for liturgical matters in the Latin Rite. The result has been that the Church has become the object of the wrath of Sts. Peter and Paul.

What was done had no legal basis even without Quas Primas because the Pope is the guardian of Tradition, not its father, not its creator, not its destroyer.

It is licit and even the duty of Catholics to resist a superior, even a Pope, who opposes the Law of God and the good of souls.

I wouldn't stand on my head waiting for sanity to return to the Church without there being first an abolition of the new mass, a suppression of the Secomd Vatican Council, and the excommunication of any and all bishops who refuse these first two acts. Counter-Revolution may be bloody but it is the surgeon's knife that heals. It could cause a schism but it would give us a firm foundation to start the rebuilding of the Church and Christendom.

I won't be standing on my head waiting for these things to happen but I will be on my knees praying for it.

JMJ --- Roger


532 posted on 08/16/2004 10:42:43 AM PDT by quidestveritas
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