Purpose Driven or Purpose Drivel?

The discerning side of my mind

[Lasher]

Would like to know if there are any other Christians out there that have not swallowed Rick Warren's version of the Gospel. I left my "seeker-friendly" Church after much prayer and ponder, and it took several months to make the split. I still must speak with my former pastor about this, so until I do, I will not name my former Church. I have noticed that most who follow the "Purpose Driven" material are emotionally attached to it, much like true Christians are emotionally tied to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Quix]

Worthy to keep in mind on this and other threads re Rick Warren as well as other issues:

Psalm 38:20
They also that render evil for good are mine adversaries; because I follow the thing that good is.

Proverbs 17:13
Whoso rewardeth evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house.

[Quix]

It doesn't appear to me taht you know much about glorifying God AT ALL.

BTW, you, as usual, don't seem to have a clue about me.

[Gamecock]

***BTW, you, as usual, don't seem to have a clue about me.****

I think RW has a better clue about you than you do.

[connectthedots]

How many copies has Piper sold?

[rwfromkansas]

Beats me. It is pretty popular among the young crowd anyway.

[connectthedots]

At Amazon:

PDL is #9

Piper's book is #3035

[rwfromkansas]

I am not surprised. Fad Christianity tends to beat out orthodox.

[jude24]

Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him for ever.

Brother, what's the difference between the Westminster Catechism's conception of the "purpose" of man, and the purposes that the PDL says we were created for?

1. You were planned for God's pleasure 2. You were formed for a family 3. You were created to become like Christ 4. You were were shaped for serving God 5. You were shaped for a misson (of evangelism)

It almost seems to me as if the Westminster's Catechism's opening question is based of the same nucleus that the Purpose-Driven Life is - and the same basis that Piper's Desiring God (his magnum opus) draws from.

[LiteKeeper]

AMEN!

[connectthedots]

For the vast majority of people, Wassen is very readable. The same cannot be said concerning most of Piper's writings.

One should not readily discount as too simple the readable in favor of the more difficult. Being harder to read and understand is no virtue in and of itself.

I almost think that if Christs sermon on the Mout was printed for the first time, some of the posters here would claim that it was 'seeker friendly' and not true to the 'true faith'. The Sermon on the Mount is laid out is very simple and easy to understand words.

[jude24]

The same cannot be said concerning most of Piper's writings.

That's most assuredly not true.

[pro610]

Warren did not get Carl Jungs Personality profiling from Jesus nor did he get Yoga or Contemplative Prayer.
PROVE TO ALL OF US THAT THIS IS SCRIPTURAL!

[pro610]

I GUESS WE HAVE TO POST THIS AGAIN!
THIS IS ALL PART OF THE PDL,PDC MOVEMENT.
Fact= Carl Jungs personality profiling is being used
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/personality-profiling.html

Warren is using Eastern Mysticism ie; Yoga Contemplative prayer

http://lighthousetrailsresearch.com/warrentwo.htm

[Quix]

Now, there you go again! Trying to be reasonable and Biblical.

You should know that's heresy on such a thread!

/sar

[Quix]

Too likely true about the Sermon On The Mount.

Sigh.

[Quix]

"PROVE TO ALL OF US . . . ."

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I don't enjoy such exercises in futility that much. Given your trashing of the list of Scriptures proving Rick was the opposite of fluff . . . followed by his own quotes proving he was the opposite of fluff . . .

I think it might be very difficult to prove to you that the sun was likely to come up tomorrow.

God will prove Rick Warren's kosherness from God's perspective IN HIS TIME. . . . and that's BEYOND the already evident proof of the orthodoxy of his core beliefs and teachings AS WELL AS THE PROOF OF THE FRUIT.

Given that you have no intention, evidently, in being Biblical about:

1) THOSE WHO SAY THAT JESUS CAME IN THE FLESH . . . [as Warren does] . . . . are of God

2) THE FRUIT proves he's of God

3) His very orthodox Biblical statements prove he's of God

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Go ahead and throw your gilded rocks. God will deal with you on that score in His time.

[rwfromkansas]

I find Piper very readable. But, that is me I guess.

Perhaps the Puritans have conditioned me, but he seems much easier than Edwards, I will say that much...lol.

[Quix]

A wonderful post at post #47

of God's miraculous moves in hurricane devastations in FLA etc. is available at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1376709/posts?page=47#47

[Corin Stormhands]

Not sure why you pinged ~me~ to your post. Then again, I've read your posts, so I'm not really interested in finding out.

Thanks for the offer.

[Terriergal]

Not sure why you pinged ~me~ to your post. Then again, I've read your posts, so I'm not really interested in finding out.

Thought maybe you could get a laugh out of the Benny HInn clip.