Posted on 07/09/2004 11:59:57 AM PDT by Land of the Irish
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Vatican II declared that there were no longer heretics, but only “separated brethren.” Along this lines the Conciliar Church indulges voodoo sects and avoids serious combats against the Devil, this “separated angel.” We are seeing that Satan himself is taking advantage of this accommodating tolerance to spread his cult ever more broadly, with rituals that often involve the most macabre violence.
Hey, as long as you're not an "elitist" proclaiming that there is only one, true Faith, everybody's welcome to "dialogue" in "a spirit of collegiality" as members of the "universal civilization of love".
To quote Cardinal Arinze (previous prefect of the ecumaniac department)..."The United States has bishops - let them interpret that."
Assisi, 1986 - John Paul II greets an African voodoo
"priest."
"Assisi, 1986 - John Paul II greets an African voodoo "priest.""
It's become a total farce; except when you think of the carnage to souls caused by all the chaos - it's not that funny.
save for later
"It's become a total farce;"
In debating someone on "communion in the hand" they could not distinguish between what is sacred and what is not. Remarks like "It is no big deal if the host falls on the ground because it is holy too" were used to try to justify communion in the hand. So what makes us think the earth-worshipping NO will recognize evil if they do not recognize what is set apart as sacred?
<P><I>Answer – Too low. The Devil is very pleased with that, since this gives him free reign to do his work. The Church went from one excess to another....</i>< Again, this is his opinion. Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but it is his opinion -- and frankly played up for sensationalism by the journalist -- and should be stated as such, not written as though it were ex cathedra.
"...Yesterday, it was the obsessive witches’ hunt that instead of exorcizing them, burned them;...>The fact of the matter is that the (in)famous witch-hunts,trials and deaths, particular 16th-17th centuries, where almost exclusivly found in Protestant nations. Germany and Scotland were probably the two worst. While the RCC may have gone after what it deemed as heritics with hammer and tongs, the same can not be said witchcraft, blackmagic, etc.</font>
<P>...today, she has abandoned everything: devils and exorcists. The result is that there is not a single exorcist in entire Catholic areas of various countries: Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria and Switzerland...< This is one of the greatest historical myths of all times. Despite what Protestant historians and Hollywood movies would have one believe, the Spanish Inquisition never tried, punished, etc.,etc. anyone charged with witchcraft. In fact, the charge of witchcraft was immediately dismissed against those who had been accused of it. Again, heresies yes, witchcraft, no. While I don't have the quote in front of me, at the time of Philip II (mid-late 16th c.) it was stated, by the Spanish Inq. itself, that witchcraft -- to use modern language -- was a mental illness. The illusion of an unbalanced mind, not an actual thing. Those who believed in witchcraft, thought they were subject to it, were sure that they possessed the power of it, etc. etc. well mentally ill (a.k.a. screwy as an out-house rat) and were more to be pitied and taken care of,not tried and burned at the stake.
I admire the Italian Bishops. They don’t understand anything, but at least they have named exorcists. Last year we had a meeting: we were 170 exorcists.< LOL! Talk about damning with faint praise! <i>'I admire the Italian Bishops. They don’t understand anything, but at least...'</i> As for the 170 exorcists at a meeting,well? What of it? Was this world wide? If so, than you can probably get that many -- at least-- at a meeting of the member of the Flat Earth Society.
<P>With all due respect, IMHO Father Amorth, like all of us, sees what he looks for.
Beware your sources. The "Heavy Metal" image shown is a copyrighted work, which I doubt they received permission to use. That demonstrates that they don't expect what they publish to be reviewed seriously.
The insertion of that image into the article shows an "oooo-boogie-boogie" mentality. "Heavy Metal" was a fantasy comic book. The mythology behind a dragon-rider is not satanic at all, but rather represents a mastery of one's own fears. THink of it as breaking, riding and using the most horrifying horse you ever saw. In the context of Satanic, ritual murders, it's natural to see the dragon as a demon, and the woman, thus, as a devil. But that context is alien.
The magazine "Heavy Metal" is sinful in that it presents grotesque distortions of human sexuality. It is not about Satan or demons (at least not the issues I ever saw). The book does have a sharp sense of good and evil; Evil is depicted as something to be triumphed over.
So why use a comic book cover when the article refers to music? Because the comic book cover is labelled, "Heavy Metal," and therefore serves to represent all of Heavy Metal. This is emotional manipulation, and unworthy of a serious discussion.
(That being said, I do agree that Heavy Metal music is evil. Except Stryper. Stryper was simply bad.)
(Come to think of it, Stryper was evil. They were so bad, that Heavy Metal kids weren't going to discover Christ through them; Christians were simply going to discover Heavy Metal through them.)
(Come to think of it again, no they weren't. Stryper was so bad, they didn't anyone to heavy metal.)
From the Roman Catechism (Catechism of the Council of Trent for Parish Priests) issued by order of Pope Pius V:
The Third Degree Of Prayer: The Prayer Of Unbelievers A third degree of prayer is that which is offered by those who have not as yet been illumined with the light of faith; but who, when the divine goodness illumines in their souls the feeble natural light, are strongly moved to the desire and pursuit of truth and most earnestly pray for a knowledge of it.
If they persevere in such dispositions, God, in His mercy, will not neglect their earnest endeavours, as we see verified by the example of Cornelius the centurion. The doors of the divine mercy are closed against none who sincerely ask for mercy.
From the Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore (Encyclical of the notorious modernist Pope Pius IX) August 10, 1863:
7. Here, too, our beloved sons and venerable brothers, it is again necessary to mention and censure a very grave error entrapping some Catholics who believe that it is possible to arrive at eternal salvation although living in error and alienated from the true faith and Catholic unity. Such belief is certainly opposed to Catholic teaching. There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.
"A Universe of Magic".
"A Universe of Sexual Fantasy".
"A Universe of Awesome Good".
"A Universe of Terrifying Evil".
Do you think the Novus Ordo church is the "white magic" of "Awesome Good"?
Personally, I think it's all a bunch of gnostic paganism.
Since the current canon law defines heresy, Vatican II did no such thing as say there are no longer heretics. Please cite a specific statement from a Vatican II document before spewing your usual anti-Catholic lies on this forum.
St. Cornelius was a Roman pagan who converted to Catholicism and had his entire family baptized.
When did Pope John Paul II encourage the Archdruid Rowan to convert to Catholicism? When he kissed the Druid's ring?
When did the Pope encourage that voodoo priest at Assisi to convert to Catholicism?
When did the Pope encourage the Muslim, who presented him his own personal Koran, to convert to Catholicism?
You can't just privately pray for conversions, you must actively evangelize.
Why do you think the Roman Catholic Church has so many martyrs?
It wasn't because they were silently, and secretly, praying in back rooms, in the dead of night for the conversion of pagans.
They willing gave their mortal lives rather than renounce the One, True religion. A direct consequence was many of their oppressors eventually obtained eternal lives in Heaven. Are you familiar with "the Forty Holy Martyrs"?
The only Catholic martyrs I'm aware of, since Vatican Council II are those who have given their lives in the Sudan, Nigeria and the Middle and Far East rather than renounce their true religion and worship a false god.
In the meantime, the Pope is kissing Allah's Koran and falsely pronouncing that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God. And the Amchurch bishops are supporting, "educating" and allowing CPA (Mao's Chicom) priests to offer invalid Masses in their own dioceses, unbeknownst to their parishioners.
With all due respect, Fr. Amorth has done more exorcisms than any priest currently living. He IS the church's expert on the subject. Strange that so many of his observations are true and that there are other authors who concur with him. He's not the only one saying these things. He also says that the new Rite of Exorcism doesn't work. The exorcists weren't consulted when it was written and the result is not effective.
Look through a lectionary some time and find the passages that mention Satan or the devil, either one. Other than the Temptation, there aren'e many. They've been excised with a figurative exacto knife. There also isn't much mention from the pulpits. Seriously. It seems that the church herself has participated in getting people to forget that evil exists.
And for the record, the Inquisition had nothing to do with witchcraft.
Another instance of saying one thing, doing another, perhaps? Canon Law talks about heresies--but the Holy See seems pretty much indifferent to the concept. It engages in a few itself--like violating the First Commandment, for instance.
And the new Baptismal rite also ignores Satan.
I believe that if all the "practicing" catholics prayed their rosary, the devil would be defeated. The Rosary Crusade is a good start.
I believe you are correct.
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