Posted on 06/27/2004 3:45:38 PM PDT by STD
Ping me if you have a similar theologic viewpoint.
Yes I am protestant...but it does seem to be mostly catholic.
Lol!!! And the catholics have their own tiffs waging with the schismatics!
Yes, there are many protestants in this forum, though I am not one of them. I have pinged a few to you .... do Anglicans count? (they do for catholics).
Protestants try to have open discussion on many URLs but they get overwhelmed by non-denominatioal "evangelical types" who turn the site into Catholic bashing threads.
When they are confronted by questions their answers are scripture verses. When you ask a question of them, you get no answer.
I have been waiting for several years for an answer to what Jesus meant when He said "This is My Body, This is My Blood?
I'm still waiting.
Good luck with your thread.
Fod Bless
***Protestants try to have open discussion on many URLs but they get overwhelmed by non-denominatioal "evangelical types"***
Silly me, I thought non-denominaltional evangelical type were Protestants. I am a non-denominational evangelical type but I have never been accused here on FR as not being a Protestant.
Fod Bless you, too
Yes, there are Protestants. And any disagreement with Catholicism is considered bashing. Logic doesn't matter on this forum.
For example, what is meant in the following passage from Psalm 91?
"I will say of the LORD, “He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust.”
Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler
And from the perilous pestilence.
He shall cover you with His feathers,
And under His wings you shall take refuge;.."
According to the Catholic method of interpretation, Bread and wine are actually become Jesus's flesh, and in the above passage, God must be a chicken. Symbolism does occur in scripture.
***I have been waiting for several years***
Go here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1143456/posts
LOL! of course Anglicans can count - most of us can even get past 10 without taking our shoes off! (we use our pocket calculators!):-)
oh wait a minute...did I misunderstand the question? *sigh* never mind....
FOD?
= foreign object damage
as in aircraft?
The question has been answered many many times, you just don't like the anwer.
Becky
"For me, is means "is" and I will accept no substitutes."
An author labors over a novel for 2 years. He finishes it and takes it to a publisher. The publisher asks, "what is this?" The author, holding the manuscript, says "this is 2 years worth of blood, sweat, and tears". Note how "is" can naturally be replaced by "represents". The use of the word "is", however, more powerfully and concisely communicates the representation. Jesus did that all the time. He said, "I am the door", not "I, like a door, am the way to access God". The second statement would have been accurate, but it loses something, doesn't it?
What do you want to chat about?
Becky
Another Episcopalian here - er ah, Anglican. Oh I don't know - my denomination is trying to figure out what to call themselves these days.
I am a Protestant who belongs to a formerly Episcopal Church, that is now a member of the Network and the AAC, and is having the former Archbishop of Canterbury visiting in September, for confirmation and baptism.
I still consider myself an Episcopalian, while the Dioceses and Churches in ECUSA decide "what" they are - Othodox or heretical.
Church of the Apostles describes their beliefs best in 3 streams, one river. The three streams of Catholic, evangelical and Protestant.
As someone above this post said, more than Protestant but not quite Roman Catholic. Catholic, we are!!
With the Words of Institution (verba) I believe that what is conveyed is the reality. To the extent that the reality is presented anew at every celebration of the Lord's Supper, it is a re-presentation, not that Christ suffers anew but that HIs passion and resurrection are placed before us such that the barriers of time and space are removed.
The language of the verba is quite different from the metaphorical statements, even the great "I am" statements of the fourth Gospel, in that these are directed about an object.
In the great debate between Luther and Zwingli the latter pointed to himself while saying "this is my body" to which Luther replied "you have a different spirit."
You been reading Aquinas or Star Trek?
The philosophical contortions to avoid the problem of a re-sacrifice have always left me bewildered. How can it be "re-presented" and yet be a unbloody sacrifice? Seems to me at Calvary there was significant bloodshed.
Amen and mega-dittoes, my brother
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