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Sacred Scripture and Outside the Church There is NO Salvation
Catholic Family News ^ | June 2004 | Jacob Michael

Posted on 05/27/2004 7:10:58 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena

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To: conservonator

Mathew Henry P.1017 "This power did not exist at all in the apostles as a power to give judgement,but only as a power to declare the character of those whom God would accept or reject in the day of judgement".


41 posted on 05/27/2004 9:19:50 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: P-Marlowe; Salvation
There is no evidence that Peter was ever in Rome or a Catholic.

There is no evidence that Peter did not live and die in Rome and no evidence that he was not a Catholic.

Gee, that's kind of fun. Just make a firm assertion and it sounds like the truth. Maybe I should have been a lawyer.

42 posted on 05/27/2004 9:20:54 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: AskStPhilomena

Excellent post. This is a very clear exposition concerning a dogma that couldn't be more assailed today, both inside and outside of the Church.


43 posted on 05/27/2004 9:22:02 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: in2itagin
Mathew Henry P.1017

Extra-biblical authority???? Get thee behind .... well, you know the rest.

44 posted on 05/27/2004 9:23:15 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: siunevada

And the catechism? Tread carefully when you hold your judgement stick, friend...


45 posted on 05/27/2004 9:26:44 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: in2itagin

Wow, the Holy Ghost was breathed upon the Apostles in order to give them the power to "declare the character" of others? What does that mean?


46 posted on 05/27/2004 9:26:55 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: P-Marlowe
There is no evidence that Peter was ever in Rome or a Catholic.

Wrong on both counts. Please provide any historical evidence that supports your assertion. St. Iranaeus has already been quoted in the above article to bolster the Catholic viewpoint.

47 posted on 05/27/2004 9:31:43 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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There is no evidence that Peter was ever in Rome or a Catholic.

Sure there is. Read Eusebius. Read Clement's letter to the Corinthians. Read Ignatius's letter to the Romans. Read the non-canonical Acts of Peter.

Your assertions are just silly.

48 posted on 05/27/2004 9:31:43 AM PDT by Romulus ("For the anger of man worketh not the justice of God.")
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To: Fifthmark

Christ directed the Apostles to declare the only method by which sin could be forgiven.


49 posted on 05/27/2004 9:31:54 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: AskStPhilomena
outside the Church, there is no salvation

In so far as the prophets and patriarchs are saved, as is St. John the Baptist -- all non-Catholics -- you are going to have to offer an understanding of "Church" somewhat more broad than simply the visible institutional Catholic Church.

50 posted on 05/27/2004 9:39:06 AM PDT by Romulus ("For the anger of man worketh not the justice of God.")
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To: in2itagin

Who?


51 posted on 05/27/2004 9:41:36 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: in2itagin

Oh, and maybe you can ask Mr. Henry where the term and dogma of sola scriptura is in Scripture.


52 posted on 05/27/2004 9:45:32 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: in2itagin
Tread carefully when you hold your judgement stick, friend...

Yeah, I keep tripping over the darn thing and whacking myself in the head.

53 posted on 05/27/2004 9:48:51 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: siunevada

ha,ha..


54 posted on 05/27/2004 9:49:48 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: Romulus
There is not one shred of contemporary evidence to show that Peter was in Rome. Look at the epistles to the Romans. Paul mentions 27 saints by name and not one of them was Peter. If Peter was there from 42-67 then why is there no record of it in the New Testament cannon? Why was he ommitted from the letters to the Romans?
55 posted on 05/27/2004 9:52:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL 3)
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To: AskStPhilomena; All

I didn't realize you Roman folks were into rewriting Scripture.

THE SCRIPTURES, THE WORD OF GOD

declares that

IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH . . . , YOU SHALL BE SAVED.

AND

IT ALSO SAYS,

THOSE WHO CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

It does NOT say

IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH AND ARE A CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF THE ROMAN CHURCH . . . YOU SHALL BE SAVED.

Nice try. But God has never been big on bureaucracy.

Pharisees have. But not God Almighty.

You might consider doing it His way according to HIS priorities instead of the bureaucracy's.


56 posted on 05/27/2004 9:52:29 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: siunevada

Remember, friends, when Christ spoke the words to Peter, there was a metaphorical message, as with many of his teachings. Don't quench the spirit by believing that you cannot be saved unless you believe the Catholic Church is the only way...Jesus says"Iam the way, the truth and the life.none enters the gatesexcept through me"


57 posted on 05/27/2004 9:55:01 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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To: Quix

Try actually reading the article and commenting on the arguments made therein, instead of regurgitating what your protestant handlers have taught you. That's the whole reason the article was posted, you know.


58 posted on 05/27/2004 10:03:16 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: in2itagin

By what authority do you render the words of Our Lord "metaphorical"?


59 posted on 05/27/2004 10:04:04 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Fifthmark

Parables,friend,parables... yes,Our Lord spoke in These terms, as even those as witty and knowledgeable as yourself are unable to grasp even the simplest of scripture. My authority is the Devine Word Of God...


60 posted on 05/27/2004 10:08:32 AM PDT by in2itagin (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
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