No, the only problem here is that both Shroudie and I are debating a Zealot for atheism (the belief that God does not exist is just as much of an unprovable as that he does) who also does not know history or the scientific method.
You displayed your ignorance when you claimed in an earlier post:
"Why? If this shroud is, as it's history suggests, a painting done for the Pope around 1357 . . ."
and you repeated this ignorance of history later when you said:
"Not when the fake is to be delivered to the Pope. And not in an age when people such as Da Vinci were running around creating an artistic Rennaissance, and tryign to mess with the system... ".
These claims are false. They are UNTRUE. The Shroud was not a "painting done for the Pope" as the Pope did not even become involved in the dispute until 37 years after the first exposition of the Shroud in Lirey. In fact, according to the record, the first Pope to even SEE the shroud was Pope Pius VII who saw the Shroud when he was being forced to travel to Paris to crown Napoleaon in 1804!
As to the absurd inclusion of Leonardo Da Vinci in the debate, Leonardo was born 102 years AFTER the first Lirey exposition. This would be akin to arguing that Abraham Lincoln was instrumental in forming the United Nations, or that JFK (the first one, not the soon to be DemocRat candidate) was responsible for the Emancipation Proclamation. Incidentally, there is no evidence that Da Vinci ever tried to "mess with the system" except in some popular fiction books and another work of fiction by Picknett and Prince.
You expound on things you DO NOT KNOW ABOUT. You claim as FACT things that are not true. You ignore proven facts. You cite historical evidence that exists only in your own mind.
Your mind is closed. You are an atheistic Zealot. I agree with Shroudie, you are a waste of our time.