Posted on 03/15/2004 11:54:15 AM PST by lrslattery
The Vatican will publish strict new norms on the Eucharist next month, permanently changing the way Mass is celebrated throughout the world.
The Pope has authorised the publication of the norms on Holy Thursday, April 8, a year after his landmark encyclical on the Eucharist.
The final draft of the document, which is now being translated from Latin, will be a carefully edited version of the draft text leaked last September. The draft, which discouraged the reception of communion in both kinds and limited the role of altar girls, provoked an angry reaction from bishops in the English-speaking world.
After intensive episcopal lobbying, the Vatican is understood to have simplified the document and moderated some of the more controversial proscriptions.
The Catholic Herald has learned that the new norms will address some of the most divisive liturgical issues in the Catholic Church today. A source close to the Vatican said the document was part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics.
It is also likely to challenge the view that the Second Vatican Council gave local bishops the authority to adapt the liturgy. It will also emphasise that Rome must guarantee the universality of the Mass.
That's nonsense, and you know it.
Good for you. Leave the Novus Ordo to those who wish to worship there.
You can't do that, though, of course. You've got to trash the Mass I prefer, though I don't do that to you.
This is the kind of thing that the "new rules" of the religion forum was supposed to prevent.
oooo! Great line! I'm gonna mention that to our priest when I see an opening. (I bet he's not thrilled about folks making the turn from the altar and just heading straight out the door . . . )
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Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples,
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Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses.
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All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not.
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For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them.
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And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes.
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And they love the first places at feasts, and the first chairs in the synagogues,
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And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi.
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Amen to that! There is none like it! But, in all fairness, the traditional Catholic Mass was a very dignified and beautiful service. Too bad, it has all come down to clapping and chewing gum, never mind taking a communion without confession!
And, to our Catholic friends, leaving the service before it ends is very wrong.
Don't have anything handy to back this up with, but I remember reading soemwhere that the early Church allowed altar girls. Again, some confirmationof that would be helpful.
That is not an attack on priesthood. It is understood that the Church does not have the authority to ordain women.
Of course they didn't give them permission to adapt the liturgy in an "illicit manner" because that would be a contradiction in terms, since what they specified would from then on be de facto "licit" rather than "illicit." But they clearly gave them permission to adapt the Mass in all kinds of various ways. These quotations give the local bishops and/or bishops' conferences permission to:
1. Encourage "participation" of all sorts with no limits specified. This is basically carte blanche to do anything they want at Mass.
2. Make their own decision on the vernacular, left up to the bishops' conferences. So again these decisions are left to their judgement and initiative. And even worse, the fact that the decision is made by a conference and not by an individual bishop means the bureaucrats are in charge. There is no way you can deny that this has been the reality since Vatican II. Nor is it a mystery how it happened.
3. To "inculturate" the Mass. This means that each region can decide what parts of the local culture are not in contradiction to the faith. So if the American bishops decide that our local culture is Elvis Presley, and they decide that Elvis Presley is perfectly consistent with the new concept of the post Vatican II Mass, then they can have an "Elvis Mass." Same concept with every other area of the world.
Yes it is. It may be later than you think.
I think you need to do some more research on the New Mass and its creation. The New Mass was always designed to be a continual work in progress. It is impossible that there could ever be a New Mass "the way it's supposed to be." The New Mass is supposed to be different every time it is said. That's the way it was created.
The liberals are actually right about this point when they say that they represent the "spirit of the New Mass." They do. And they should since they created it. They know what it's spirit is. And it was never designed to be similar to the traditional Catholic Mass. If it were, they never would have needed to create a new one.
Before the Amchurchers get their panties in a bunch, I have to say that I know the Pope is a holy man, and that he is under the special guidance of the Holy Spirit and that he is the valid Vicar of Christ, but, for some reason, he sits and watches the wolves eat the sheep in God's sheepfold.
What gives you this idea? He has been 110% behind Vatican II since day one of his reign. He was clearly a liberal candidate and was not even supported by his own primate in Poland, Cardinal Wyszynski. There is a good reason that the hierarchy is filled with virtually 100% liberals. Remember that you can count the number of bishops not appointed by JPII on your hands. He has selected the entire hierarchy worldwide. Whatever they are, they reflect the vision of the person who selected each and every one of them.
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