You can say it as many times as you wish, but it is still a circular argument. You attempt to demonstrate that He didn't die for all by saying He didn't die for all. There is no persuasive value to the post.
It's all wrapped up in John 3:16
"For God so loved "just the people who loved Him back"...??? No. The world.
Just go and look up what "the world" means. Remember "in the world" or "of the world"? It most certainly does not refer to just the elect.
God gave His Son for ALL. Not "all" have accepted it. The ticket is sitting there at the "will call" window just waiting to let them in - all paid up in full. But, sadly, some go unclaimed.
Do you believe that when Jesus said it is finished he meant maybe it is finished?
I believe you have little inkling of what He meant. What was "it"?
Do you believe God fore-knew those that would be saved?
Foreknew??? Sure. But that isn't the discussion. It's assumed in "omniscience". He knows who will win the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean He rigged the game.
"For God so loved "just the people who loved Him back"...??? No. The world.
May I suggest that you look up Kosmos ?
1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3
3) the world, the universe
4) the circle of the earth, the earth
5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly
a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ
8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc)
b) of believers only, John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19
This was a message to the Jews. They believed that has an exclusive relationship with God. They hated the Samartians and the Gentiles. The word Kosmos to the Jew listening to that phrase would hear that God loved those that were not Jews too. That Christ came for them(the other sheep)
That was a thought that the Jews did not want to hear, they had lost their "special " stand with God.
If indeed it mean as you interpret it all men would be saved because Christ already paid for all their sins
Just go and look up what "the world" means. Remember "in the world" or "of the world"? It most certainly does not refer to just the elect.
I did look it up...please read it
God gave His Son for ALL. Not "all" have accepted it. The ticket is sitting there at the "will call" window just waiting to let them in - all paid up in full. But, sadly, some go unclaimed.
Do you have a passage for the ticket idea?
What that idea would mean is that Christ did not save anyone on the cross , it was simply a potential salvation." It " is still not finished.
Do you believe that when Jesus said it is finished he meant maybe it is finished?
I believe you have little inkling of what He meant. What was "it"?
It was the atonement ...now if it was complete as you interpret complete , then we have no need for missionaries or preaching the Gospel because all mankind is saved.
Do you believe God fore-knew those that would be saved?
Foreknew??? Sure. But that isn't the discussion. It's assumed in "omniscience". He knows who will win the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean He rigged the game.
I am not discussing Calvinism here ...so stop being so defensive
If God foreknew all that would be saved, then Jesus would have have known for whom He died, He would know when it was finished.
The atonement was not general , it was specific for those that would come .