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The Bible indicates Gibson actually went easy on the injuries to Jesus' face!
Monday, March 1, 2004 | tame

Posted on 03/01/2004 10:08:26 AM PST by tame

There has been a lot spoken and written about the "undue violence" in Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ".

But if w review the Biblical record, Gibson actually may have gone easy on the physical damage done to Jesus' face. Consider the following:

Isaiah 52:13-15 (prophecy about the Messiah): "Behold, my servant will prosper, He will be high and lifted up, and greatly exalted. Just as many were astonished at you, my people, so his appearance was marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men. Thus he will sprinkle many nations, Kings will shut their mouths on account of him; For what had not been told them they will see, And what they had not heard they will understand."

Matthew 26:67-68, "Then they spat in his face and beat him with their fists; and others slapped him, and said, 'Prophecy to us, You Christ; who is the one who hit you?'"

Matthew 27:27-30, "The the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole Roman cohort around him. And they stripped him, and put a scarlet robe on him. And after weaving a crown of thorns, they put it on his head, and a reed in his right hand; and they kneeled down before him and mocked him, saying, 'Hail, King of the Jews!' And they spat on him, and took the reed and began to beat him on the head.

Mark 15:16-19, "And the soldiers took him away into the palace (that is, the praetorium), and they called together the whole Roman cohort. And they dressed him up in purple, and after weaving a crown of thorns, they out it on him; and they began to proclaim him, 'Hail, King of the Jews!' And they kept beating his head with a reed [staff made of reed], and spitting at him, and kneeling and bowing before him."

Luke 22:63, "And the men who were holding Jesus in custody were mocking him, an beating him. And they blindfolded him and were asking him, saying, 'Prophecy, Who is the one who hit you?'"

John 18:22, "And when he had said this, one of the officers standing by gave Jesus a blow, saying, 'Is that the way you answer the high priest?'"

John 19:1-3, "Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him. And the soldiers wove a crown of thorns and put it on his head, and arrayed him in a purple robe; and they began to come up to him, and say, 'Hail, King of the Jews!' and to give him blows in the face.

Now, to put this in perspective, when is the last time you received a direct blow to the face (accidental or otherwise). Now, imagine someone hitting you in the face two or three times. Assuming the blows are full force, your face would probably swell up.

Now, consider that a Jesus was hit in the face on more than one occassion during that horrific day. Also consider that on one of the occassions "a whole Roman cohort" REPEATEDLY hit Jesus in the face.

No wonder Isaiah 52:14 says that "his appearance was marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men"!

To be blunt, it appears from the accounts cited that Jesus' face was beaten to a swollen pulp. This may account for the fact that, after Jesus resurrection, the disciples on the road to Emmaus did not recognize him even as they spoke to him! (Luke, chapter 24)

True, Luke 24:16 seems to stress the eyes of those disciples being "vailed" or "kept from recognizing him" (depending on the translation). Still, the condition of Jesus' disfigured face may have been a factor used by God the father to prevent his immediate recognition.

And, in case somebody is wondering if Jesus continued to bare these wounds after his resurrection, the answer seems to be YES! In addition to Luke 24:16, John 20:24-28 depicts Jesus as showing Thomas his wounds. Also, Revelation 5:6 depicts the Messiah as "a lamb standing, as if slain..."

But let us not forget why this terrible murder of Jesus took place (If you're reading this, Mr. Gibson, place direct a prequal and a sequal!):

Romans 4:25, "He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

BTW, This is not an optional belief for those who seeking truth, or salvation from the coming wrath. It is a necessary belief. In fact, Paul says Jesus death, burial and resurrection IS the gospel! Therefore a denial of this death, burial and resurrection is a denial of the gospel itself:

1 Corinthians 15:1-4, "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, that he was buried, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures."

Romans 10:9, 10, "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."


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This is a news item...a good news item :o)
1 posted on 03/01/2004 10:08:30 AM PST by tame
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To: tame
SPOTREP - THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
2 posted on 03/01/2004 10:09:28 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
bttt
3 posted on 03/01/2004 10:12:15 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: tame

4 posted on 03/01/2004 10:16:13 AM PST by The Mayor (There is no such thing as insignificant service for Christ.)
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To: Jim Robinson; AnnaZ; Outraged; mrs tiggywinkle; texasflower; Nan48; midwestjenny; AgThorn; ...
Hisorical Facts in the Passion Ping!
5 posted on 03/01/2004 10:28:00 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: truthtracker; Tiffany
Historical Facts in "The Passion of the Christ" ping!
6 posted on 03/01/2004 10:30:42 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
I suspect he went easy on a lot more than that.
7 posted on 03/01/2004 10:31:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: tame
I just have to relate the stupidity of some people that I heard this weekend on the radio.
(I am Catholic BTW) One of the Bishops here in MI said that he did not like "The Passion" because it made all four Gospels into one story.

HUH??

I have to find a reference to it. Maybe it was some kind of joke or something....
8 posted on 03/01/2004 10:32:53 AM PST by netmilsmom (God Bless the FReepers who convinced Dad to let me Homeschool!)
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To: tame
Thanks for the post. Very good compilation of the relevant passages.

RamS
9 posted on 03/01/2004 10:32:54 AM PST by RamingtonStall (Ride Hard and far! ..... and with GPS, Know where you are!)
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To: tame
There has been a lot spoken and written about the "undue violence" in Mel Gibson's movie

Such a lame argument it is..............

10 posted on 03/01/2004 10:33:37 AM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: tame
Thank you for this post as it was exactly the sentiment I echoed upon seeing the movie; based on my readings & teachings of the gospels over many years my understanding and belief was that, indeed, as noted here, that Mel Gibson's portrayal was very accurate and, if anything, a little light on the treatment of Jesus; another example being how they cast lots for his posessions, something which is portrayed but only slightly in the film. As for the portrayals of the thorny crown piercing his head & face + the beatings endured after Pilate had first turned him over to be punished, my understanding was always that those periods were indeed horrific and that the portrayal in "The Passion ..." were accurate if not tame at the least.
11 posted on 03/01/2004 10:35:01 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: tame; Dubya; Victoria Delsoul; Jen
Ping
12 posted on 03/01/2004 10:35:03 AM PST by JustAmy (God Bless our Troops! God Bless President Bush! God Bless America!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
Each of the four is a bit different.

My wife told me that she felt Gibson used John, more than the others.

Gibsons call. All are scripture.

13 posted on 03/01/2004 10:37:09 AM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Steven W.
one other point that was done so lightly too was when the roman soldiers offered up vinegar to Jesus on the cross; my recollection was that this was done many times and that the acidic nature of the vinegar reaped even further pain as it dripped on the wounds, etc., something only lightly portrayed (the sponge being offered only once, not forced, and not dripping, either) - thus the movie erred on the side of being too kind or less ominous than the treatment indeed was.
14 posted on 03/01/2004 10:37:15 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: tame
If I'm not mistaken, didn't they also rip (pluck) the beard from his face?

I'll have to see if I can find the passage...
15 posted on 03/01/2004 10:38:06 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!")
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To: tame
Thanks! I'm putting this aside for contemplation.

Additionally, Jesus' appearance in the movie exactly matches the image on the Shroud of Turin. (I have looked at the Shroud a hundred times but have never before noticed the whip marks. I guess I assumed that the marks would only be on His back.)

16 posted on 03/01/2004 10:39:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: tame; scripter
Bump
17 posted on 03/01/2004 10:41:57 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Steven W.; All
As for the portrayals of the thorny crown piercing his head & face + the beatings endured after Pilate had first turned him over to be punished

Incidentally, I should have mentioned that, not only would his face (and head!) have been swollen by the blows, but add to that the additional damage done by those painful thorns.

Reminds me of that song by Dallas Holm, "The Day He Wore My Crown"!

18 posted on 03/01/2004 10:42:39 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: wirestripper
I do understand that there are differences but don't they all tell the same basic story?

19 posted on 03/01/2004 10:43:56 AM PST by netmilsmom (God Bless the FReepers who convinced Dad to let me Homeschool!)
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To: tame
For interpretation I feel that marring Cavizel's face any further would have distracted the dramatic impact and the actor's phenomenal emotional and spiritual treatment of Jesus' suffering.

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for Thou art with me..."

20 posted on 03/01/2004 10:46:16 AM PST by Outraged
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