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CANT FROM THE CLEVELAND CHANCERY? ["Passion" v "V-Monolouges" v Guerrilla Girls]
http://www.exceptionalmarriages.com/weblog/ ^ | 2-25-2004 | Kevin Miller

Posted on 02/26/2004 7:38:45 PM PST by Diago

CANT FROM THE CLEVELAND CHANCERY? ACTION NEEDED! [Kevin Miller]
  2/26/2004
 

Please read this narrative, then send the email and make the phone call suggested at the end.

The other week, a reader emailed me an item from CWN about the Diocese of Cleveland's respective reactions to Passion and The V Monologues. The reader added some further information about the latter, and suggested emailing various folks at JCU and the Cleveland Diocese to complain. I blogged his note. The first two sentences of the CWN item were as follows:

The Diocese of Cleveland issues a warning to Catholic parishes that seeing a movie, The Passion of the Christ, which illustrates the events of the Gospels, may lead to the rise of anti-Semitism in churchgoing Catholics. Meanwhile, a local Catholic university allows the production of the "Monologues" on campus with proceeds going to a pro-abortion group.

The other day, I linked back to that earlier post from another one about another apparent abomination at JCU.

Enter another reader, a priest from the state of Washington. Yesterday, he emailed the various Cleveland chancery officials noted in the original post, citing the above-quoted sentences, and asking, "is this true?"

He received a reply from Father Lawrence Jurcak, who appears from the diocese's web site to be the recently-named Secretary and Vicar for Clergy and Religious. He forwarded the correspondence to me. Fr. Jurcak's reply read:

You details are not true at all. There is no "warning issued by the Diocese" about not seeing The Passion of the Christ."

My first thought was that this seemed to be somewhat of an evasion. The claim, quoted above, had been that there was a warning not that one shouldn't see the movie but rather that doing so might lead to anti-Semitism - i.e., that one should be cautious about what conclusions one draws from the movie if one does see it.

I then followed the links from my original post, as provided by the reader who'd sent it. The CWN item links to a Cleveland newspaper article, "'Passion' movie raises religious fervor, fears," which describes the diocese's warning/"memo." Paragraph 4 of that article reads: "The Diocese of Cleveland sent a February memo to all its parishes asking Catholics to be aware of the potential for anti-Semitism." The CWN item struck me as containing a reasonable paraphrase of that description - a call for awareness for the potential for anti-Semitism surely reflects concern that anti-Semitism might be one of the movie's effects and could therefore reasonably be described as a "warning" that the movie might lead to anti-Semitism. The article goes into somewhat more detail about the memo further down.

Of course, a newspaper account may well be inaccurate. So I poked around the diocesean web site a bit more until I found what appears to be the "memo" in question. It's headed, "Movies About the Passion of Jesus Christ." It begins, "In the next few months there are at least two movies to be released about the passion and death of Jesus Christ." Now, those two would be Gibson's Passion and, I gather, The Gospel of John. Since no one that I know of has expressed concerns that the latter might stir up anti-Semitism - presumably at least partly because of the translation it uses - it's obvious, I think, that the warnings about anti-Semitic accounts of responsiblity for Christ's suffering and death that make up the bulk of the memo reflect concern about Passion. In short, I think that the newspaper account of the memo is accurate, and that the CWN description of it is, too. (When I bounced these thoughts off my Washington priest reader, he replied, "Your interpretation seems correct to me.")

So, when we've dealt with the diocese's evasion and quibbling, we're left with the question: Why were they more concerned about the effects that Passion might have than about the effects that JCU's presentation of Monologues might have? Why haven't we seen at least a "memo" about the possibly bad effects of the latter? (Never mind whether the warning about Passion is the best way to deal with that movie to begin with.)

My Washington reader forwarded my comments to Fr. Jurcak and told me he'd keep me posted if he gets a reply. I suggest you contact Fr. Jurcak also. As well as Bishop Pilla - (216) 696-6525 ext. 2030. Ask them why Fr. Jurcak is being evasive about what the diocese said about Passion - and why they're expressing concerns about it, but not, apparently, about Monologues.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; cleveland; dioceseofcleveland; frjurcak; guerrillagirls; lawrencejurcak; monologues; vaginamonologues
The radically pro-abortion Guerrilla Girls will be at John Carroll University this Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday!

From there website;

http://www.guerrillagirls.com/posters/catholic.shtml

WHAT ARE TRADITIONAL VALUES ON ABORTION? AS YOU CAN SEE

FROM THIS POSTER, IT DEPENDS.

We carried this poster in the prochoice march on Washington D.C., urging right-to-lifers—and the Catholic Church—to repent their sinful, modern ideas.


1 posted on 02/26/2004 7:38:46 PM PST by Diago
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To: Diago
And thanks to world class blogger Dominic Bettinelli for this nugget of truth:

http://bettnet.dyndns.org/blog/weblog.php

Women who need shaves

While were talking about pseudo-Catholic Jesuit universities, theres the case of John Carroll University in Cleveland. For their Intellectual Enrichment Series (I kid you not), they have scheduled the Guerilla Girls for March 2, sponsored by the Division of Student Affairs, Women at Noon Committee, and the Departmenr of Political Science.

What are the Guerilla Girls? Oh, just a pro-abortion, anti-Catholic, anti-male, anti-civilization (you get the idea) organization.

I bet Fr. Ed Glynn, the president, would love to hear about this:

John Carroll University (OH)
Rev. Edward Glynn, S.J., President
20700 N. Park Blvd., University Heights, OH 44118
Phone: (216) 397-1886
E-mail: eglynn@jcu.edu

Or Bishop Anthony Pilla, (216) 696-6525 Ext. 2030. Or various diocesan bureaucrats:

bishop@dioceseofcleveland.org;
rtayek@dioceseofcleveland.org;
emayer@dioceseofcleveland.org;
rmharwood@dioceseofcleveland.org;
ljurcak@dioceseofcleveland.org;

2 posted on 02/26/2004 7:43:02 PM PST by Diago
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To: Pyro7480; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
You gotta see the picture posted above!
3 posted on 02/26/2004 7:45:50 PM PST by Diago
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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4 posted on 02/26/2004 8:01:53 PM PST by Coleus (Help Tyler Schicke http://tylerfund.org/ Burkitt's leukemia, http://www.birthhaven.org/needs.html)
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To: Diago
read later
5 posted on 02/26/2004 10:20:32 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Diago
The radically pro-abortion Guerrilla Girls

ugly on the outside and ugly on the inside.

6 posted on 02/26/2004 10:52:10 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
bump
7 posted on 02/27/2004 12:37:52 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: truthandlife; m4629; pseudo-justin
I guess we will be seeing this in every "Catholic" college by next year.
8 posted on 02/27/2004 3:57:08 AM PST by Knock3Times
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To: Diago
How unladylike and unfeminine to lie and present oneself as a symbol of warfare.

Those...females...are a disgrace to the rest of us.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 4:56:03 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Diago; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; narses; ...
Before 1869, the Catholic Church approved of abortion? I notice there's an asterisk but can't make out the source. Can anyone provide more specific information on their allegation?
10 posted on 02/27/2004 5:26:24 AM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
The Source is something dated 1991 it appears. Someone elses assertion, so it doesn't even cite a encyclical or anything. Look at the group, and doubt accordingly.
11 posted on 02/27/2004 5:55:40 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NWU Army ROTC; NYer
From ALL:

http://www.all.org/issues/theology.htm

Introduction:

The claims that before 1869 the Catholic Church's teaching authority did not oppose abortion and that Catholic theology held that the father provided the soul to the fetus are both false. Further, the allegation that the Catholic Church which has consistently opposed contraception would be indifferent to induced abortion must be considered suspect on its face...

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12 posted on 02/27/2004 9:13:54 AM PST by Diago
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To: NYer
Probably the first time the issue came up...
13 posted on 02/27/2004 9:16:43 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Diago
That is what I figured. When they won't cite the actual source, but another source that says that, one should be wary of their overall validity. Primary Sources reign.
14 posted on 02/27/2004 9:37:07 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NYer; american colleen; Knock3Times; NWU Army ROTC; Diago; steve8714
Before 1869, the Catholic Church approved of abortion? I notice there's an asterisk but can't make out the source. Can anyone provide more specific information on their allegation?

This is the poster info on their webpage. Words are clearer, which made out to be "Carl N. Flanders, Abortion, Library in a book, 1991"

Amazon search shows it's not exactly mainstream credibility, as suspected.

15 posted on 02/27/2004 12:09:20 PM PST by m4629
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To: Diago

bump


16 posted on 05/22/2005 7:35:14 PM PDT by Diago
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