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Local attorney (Aretakis) reaches out to Pope
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| February 24, 2004
Posted on 02/24/2004 3:17:17 PM PST by NYer
Attorney John Aretakis has written a formal letter to Pope John Paul II. Aretakis is asking the Vatican to acknowledge a letter, he said was written back in 1995, which questions some of the practices of Bishop Howard Hubbard.
The late father John Minkler's name had been linked to the letter.
Minkler's body was found last week in his Watervliet home.
Aretakis said Minkler sent the letter to Cardinal John O'Connor, who then forwarded it to the Vatican.
Officials from the Roman Catholic Diocese said Father Minkler requested a meeting with them shortly before his death to deny authorship of the letter in question.
Aretakis is not asking the Pope to concede the allegations in the letter. He is, however, asking the pontiff to acknowledge its existence.
Ken Goldfarb, director of communications for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany, said, "Bishop Hubbard and the diocese will, as always, be guided by the decisions of the Holy See. That Mr. Aretakis sent his letter to the local news media and the Vatican at the same time, tells you everything you need to know about his real agenda."
TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: albany; aretakis; hubbard; minkler
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:17:19 PM PST
by
NYer
To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; narses; ...
Officials from the Roman Catholic Diocese said Father Minkler requested a meeting with them shortly before his death to deny authorship of the letter in question. LIE! Fr. Minkler was summoned to the Chancery.
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:19:41 PM PST
by
NYer
(Ad Jesum per Mariam)
To: NYer; All
Ken Goldfarb, director of communications for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany, said, "Bishop Hubbard and the diocese will, as always, be guided by the decisions of the Holy See. In Part II of The Wanderer series entitled "Agony in Albany", Likoudis writes:
"Tw and a half years after Kosnick (info posted on a separate thread) spoke in Albany, Sr. Margaret Farley, an associate professor of ethics at Yale University, was invited to Albany to speak at Mercy High School to an assembly of Catholic health-care workers. The catholic hospitals of the diocese sponsored the talk.
Sr. Farley branded the Church's prohibition on contraception and sterilization as "extremely paternalistic," and an unwarranted interference in the right of health-care workers to offer "comprehensive health care."
Her attack on Humanae Vitae was not the only one in the diocese made by an invited guest since Kosnick's visit, but what made it especially irksome to catholics was that itw was delivered less than six months after Pope John Paul II had confirmed the value of Humanae ?Vitae in his address on the Mall in Washington, DC."
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:28:13 PM PST
by
NYer
(Ad Jesum per Mariam)
To: NYer
Ken Goldfarb, director of communications for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany, said, "Bishop Hubbard and the diocese will, as always, be guided by the decisions of the Holy See. That Mr. Aretakis sent his letter to the local news media and the Vatican at the same time, tells you everything you need to know about his real agenda."Ah, the usual commie Alisky manipulation of words, another example of Clintonese.
Guided, yes. Follow, no.
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:30:48 PM PST
by
m4629
To: NYer
Ken Goldfarb, director of communications for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany, said, ".......That Mr. Aretakis sent his letter to the local news media and the Vatican at the same time, tells you everything you need to know about his real agenda."Now Mr. Goldfarb, WHAT real agenda would that be? Care to elaborate?
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:35:50 PM PST
by
m4629
To: NYer
I wonder what happened to the social worker who allegedly quit her job with the diocese after being required to take a second patient to an abortion clinic. That strikes me as so tragic. Trying to be faithful to your religious beliefs and being a social worker are usually not compatible. Of all places, one would hope she could be safe working for the diocese. If that is true, what an outrage!
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:36:02 PM PST
by
Aliska
To: NYer
Ken Goldfarb, director of communications for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany, said, "Bishop Hubbard and the diocese will, as always, be guided by the decisions of the Holy See..."
ROFLOL! Those clowns have managed to completely wipe the word OBEDIENCE out of existence (along with the concept!).
What fun it'd be to regress, and taunt Howie and his "fellas" with a finger wagging, and an almost humming of "you're gone-nah get it!"
To: NYer
LIE! Fr. Minkler was summoned to the Chancery.I smell Clintonian type politics. We can't let this guy go down like Vince Foster.
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:40:34 PM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
To: NYer
Aretakis is not asking the Pope to concede the allegations in the letter. He is, however, asking the pontiff to acknowledge its existence.Translation for those Clintonese unfamiliar with Roman Communications ..... Rome does NOT have to come out and acknowledge even the existence of the letter. Rome only needs to remain silent and not refuting they had in fact received such letter.
Affirmation is in the Silence.
Brilliant move on the part of Aretakis. If Rome says nothing, he wins. If Rome says they had never seen this letter, then Rome is obliged to look into it. Bravo ...... LOL
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posted on
02/24/2004 3:52:10 PM PST
by
m4629
To: NYer
More grandstanding by an attorney who simply cannot win a case against the diocese of Albany, and has no dog in this fight, since no lawsuits have been filed, and he represents no one.
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posted on
02/24/2004 4:03:53 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: m4629
Rome will say nothing to a blustering attorney, either way.
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posted on
02/24/2004 4:05:41 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: NYer
The nuns by and large as a group have lost our catholic schools and hospitals, in addition to losing their faith.
The truth is ugly.
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posted on
02/24/2004 4:07:15 PM PST
by
m4629
To: NYer; Unam Sanctam; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; ...
Aretakis said Minkler sent the letter to Cardinal John O'Connor, who then forwarded it to the Vatican.
From a Likoudis article posted earlier today:
According to Minkler, as related to this reporter the evening of February 13, OConnor during a visit to the Vatican made a personal appeal to John Paul II to remove both Hubbard and Clark, and, again, according to Minkler, the Holy Father told OConnor, "Theres nothing I can do."
If the Pope tells one his Princes of the Roman Catholic church that there's nothing he can do about several of his apostate bishops of the Roman Catholic church; why would he answer Aretakis' plea for help.
Oh wait, if Aretakis is not a Roman Catholic, he may have a fighting chance. If the lawyer is Anglican, Russian Orthodox, Jewish or Muslim, maybe the Pope will assist him. Anything in the name of false ecumenism.
Unam Sanctam:
This "softly, softly" approach is really working, isn't it?
To: Land of the Irish
according to Minkler, the Holy Father told OConnor, "Theres nothing I can do." That sounds very bizarre. And raises a lot of questions. If that's a true account, something is very wrong.
To: NYer
This will be interesting to follow!
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posted on
02/24/2004 4:44:34 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
And raises a lot of questions.And they may never be answered honestly. Both Fr. Minkler and Cardinal O'Connor are now deceased. But by their reputations, I have no reason to doubt either of them.
To: Land of the Irish
I certainly would prefer that the Pope take care of some of the more egregious problems when bishops fail to fulfill their duties. In the first instance, however, the bishop is responsible for running the local Church, and the Holy Father can't be expected to fix every little thing through micromanagement. Why were these lousy bishops chosen, however? I grant you that is a difficult question for me to fathom.
To: Land of the Irish
The truth becomes clearer and clearer. Perhaps this pope is one of the most harmful popes our Blessed Church has had in recent memory despite what the novus ordo gestapo here on Freerepublic refuses to admit.
To: Land of the Irish
"and, again, according to Minkler, the Holy Father told OConnor, "Theres nothing I can do."
This is difficult to accept as reported. That would mean either that the Holy Father is a liar, or that things are so out of control that he can't exercise papal power.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:26:54 PM PST
by
dsc
To: Unam Sanctam
" the Holy Father can't be expected to fix every little thing through micromanagement."
Little thing? Micromanagement?
Any average person given the authority could burn out those nests of vipers in a couple of months.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:28:34 PM PST
by
dsc
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