Shrine Rector Confirms New Ecumenical Orientation at Fatima

Catholic Family News ^ | February 2004 | John Vennari

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

Do you think Kaspar is compromising truths of the Faith?
sorry, I have no exact quote for evaluation, but just in general, is he one faithful Catholics should respect and generally agree with?

[Viva Christo Rey]

Do you think Kaspar is compromising truths of the Faith?

Here is a quotation from a book published by Kasper in the last few years BEFORE JP2 named him a "cardinal":

"We must re-examine the historicity of the resurrection."

The context in which this statement was made was that the Resurrection was accepted matter of factly by early Christians and now that we live in a more critical era, we must determine whether it actually occured.

If he is a Catholic, so were Marx, Lenin and Stalin.

[Piers-the-Ploughman]

Re: Kaspar: "Re-examine historicity of resurrection."

Conceding I have no context with that quote you provided, I would still have to be concerned about what on earth is he getting at? Is he about to deconstruct resurrection or what does it mean? Would that be a fair concern or would a Catholic who felt this way just be over-reacting?

[fortunecookie]

We had a seminar similar to this at one of our local parishes. The woman 'presenter' told similar stories of ecumenism and such. She told a Buddhist story, a Native American story and talked about how free she was after dropping the punitive 'don't' mentality of the commandments (meant for a certain people in a certain time period was her explanation) and adopted the 'positive' mentality of the beatitudes which most closely follow the Law of Love given by Jesus. I lasted about 1 1/2 of the first 2 hr night. It ran for four nights. Never had mass. Never quoted from the rich tradition and writings of the Church. It had an enormous crowd, people loved it. Loved it.

About a month earlier, Fr. Corapi spoke at another local church. About 100-200 attended. And many of them bused in from two cities about 90 and 120 miles away!!! If you ever hear of him speaking in a church near you, don't miss it.

But that's my point too. The blather of the 'new' mult-cultural church is the new way, all happy touchy-feely openly putting down it's own traditions in favor of the traditions of others, including those who seem diametrically opposed to Catholic and Christian teachings such as Buddhism. And criticizing openly those who dare point out that the Catholic church has beautiful teachings.

[Unam Sanctam]

On Kasper and the whole Jewish thing, I just think the whole issue is very complicated, given the teachings of Scripture (St. Paul) and Tradition (various Councils and Popes), I'm not sure the Magisterium has straightened it out the difficulties yet. I'm not sure Kasper has the last word -- and remember that even St. Thomas Aquinas was wrong on the Immaculate Conception. I'm not an expert on the issue or on Kasper, never having paid much attention to him before. I still have not seen any quotation of his confirming that he denies the Resurrection, as has been alleged. Anyways, Popes are not guaranteed against choosing lousy bishops or cardinals, there have been plenty of the latter throughout history. That does not excuse obedience to the Pope in his exercise of legitimate authority in the Church.

[Viva Christo Rey]

"Conceding I have no context with that quote you provided, I would still have to be concerned about what on earth is he getting at? Is he about to deconstruct resurrection or what does it mean? Would that be a fair concern or would a Catholic who felt this way just be over-reacting?"

Kasper seems to have a wide-ranging itinerary of doctrine from throughout the 19+ centuries of the Catholic Church that have awaited his personal advent to "correct".

Yes, it is a fair concern and and in no way an over-reaction.

[Viva Christo Rey]

"Conceding I have no context with that quote you provided, I would still have to be concerned about what on earth is he getting at? Is he about to deconstruct resurrection or what does it mean? Would that be a fair concern or would a Catholic who felt this way just be over-reacting?"

Kasper seems to have a wide-ranging itinerary of doctrine from throughout the 19+ centuries of the Catholic Church that have awaited his personal advent to "correct".

Although this may appear contradictory, he also seems to be trying to make a name for himself to be considered "papabile".

Yes, it is a fair concern and and in no way an over-reaction.

[PFKEY]

Thank you for your response.

Most (?) recently, the question of ordaining women to the Presbyterate has been definitively answered. (The answer is "no".)

This seems like a rather easy one to answer. How long has this been an issue for the church?

However, he does not necessarily answer all questions in a manner which all would consider timely. Nor is he required to. But when he does answer, that's the end of the question.

Makes sense.

What are some of the main issues of the day?