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lisaslighthouse.org ^ | Leila Miller

Posted on 01/15/2004 1:19:39 PM PST by johnb2004

The God presented to American Catholics today is the Rodney Dangerfield of gods: He gets no respect. Today, God hardly needs to be worshipped, since He's our buddy, our pal, our equal. No need to fear Him or stand in awe, no difficult obligations on our part -- we need only feel the warm fuzzies He showers upon us, until we die and He takes us instantly to Heaven.

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To: johnb2004
I can tell you in three phrases the content of a decade of catechesis: God is good, Jesus loves you, and love your neighbor.

Our "catechesis" during the 1980s consisted of a few other tidbits: the Bible is mainly fiction, fighting "agrarian reformers" is evil, sex is fun.
21 posted on 01/15/2004 7:20:35 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: NYer
"Fourth - Get involved at your parish!!! Volunteer to teach a Religious Ed class. It is a truly gratifying experience to bring tradition to these young souls who are starving for the truth! Don't just complain - do it!"

This is what I did. I'm teaching the adult Catechism class, and it is fun! It's very sad to see how badly Catholics in America have been cheated out of their Faith for so long. I'm hoping that in my small way I can help open the eyes of a few people who will be able to go out and do what I'm doing: teach the Catechism. Don't stand on ceremony. Just take the book, take turns reading, and read until someone asks a question or makes an observation. We can all learn from each other. Please pray for me as I do this, that what we learn from our Catechism will help us to grow in our Faith and help us to pass it on to our children.

22 posted on 01/15/2004 7:30:28 PM PST by redhead (Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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To: johnb2004
Thank you for posting this. It is so sad and so true. Though regretably, I am one of those Catholics raised in the Church where tradition has been effectively crushed. The only reason I am where I am is because I tend to be a little reactionary, and when my Sunday School and Jesuit HS teachers pushed me left, I ran right and haven't stopped. Thank you again.
23 posted on 01/15/2004 8:02:02 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: lulu67
This is the place to learn it. This is the place to learn it. The Catholics on this site are a tremendous resource which I know I rely on a great deal for help, they really are an inspiration. I am a College Student, and when I got here, I went hard right, almost into Evangelical land, until I took a few steps back and moved more into Orthodox Catholicism. It is such a grace, Freepmail any of us, we will do what we can. God Bless
24 posted on 01/15/2004 8:07:09 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: lulu67
Below is a traditional website link. The owner is a revert to traditional Catholicism after having been raised and participating in post VII church life. No matter which is your current preference this is a great resource for the traditions of the Church.


http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/beingcatholic.html
25 posted on 01/15/2004 10:31:04 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: redhead
I too got involved, but after four years they booted me out. (too "rigid", "divisive", "intimidating" etc. etc.)

Now, I go to different friends homes and even to some parishes where I have priest friends to give apologetics presentations.

The "establishment" (ie: chancery/rectory rats) do not want the Truth to be told.

Please pray for me, for soon I will be on an upcoming diocesan Teens Encounter Christ weekend and I WILL be giving the kids the Truth. I will be giving each teen a, gasp!, Catechism, and will be pointing out certain "moral truths" for them to ponder.

The story which this thread is based can be the same of so many Catholics I know.
26 posted on 01/16/2004 3:55:26 AM PST by undirish01 (Go Irish! If only we can get the theology dept. turned around.)
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To: lulu67
There are a lot of good sources out there both in books and on the internet. Try Tan Books, Ignatius Press, the website Catholic Answers, and I'll dig the others up when I get home from work.

There is also Catholic radio. If you go to the EWTN site, there is a list of all the Catholic radio stations nation-wide. It's buried a bit on the radio page, in the drop down box on the search line, but it's there.

Traditional Catholicism offers so much more than the pap we were raised with. There's a lot of people who abandoned it who really disagree, but it's true. Don't let anyone stop you, but your journey will probably be your own.
27 posted on 01/16/2004 5:04:27 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Desdemona
Thank you all who sent me links to websites and books. I'll look forward to checking them out. We don't have EWTN on my TV system, but we do have a Catholic radio station, which I listen to frequently.

Sorry I cannot reply to each of you to send my thanks, I don't know how to send a message to multiple people yet!
28 posted on 01/16/2004 2:39:50 PM PST by lulu67
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To: lulu67
You're welcome.

All you have to do to send a post to multiple people, is put a comma between the names.
29 posted on 01/16/2004 2:46:40 PM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: johnb2004
How shall young people honour Christian values if not even the government does? The Bush administration lead the war in Iraq against the will of the Vatican and the will of Bush's own church. 87 US$ were spend, while the US budget for fighting hunger and other miseries in the world is neglectable (Economic aid - ODA $6.9 billion (1997), cf. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html)
30 posted on 01/18/2004 5:44:53 PM PST by jhhoeffler
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To: jhhoeffler
I have heard that same old propaganda since viet nam. Hunger needs to be fought by ending corrupt governments. BTW, what good is food if noone is around to eat it because terrorists have killed so many?
31 posted on 01/19/2004 1:25:34 PM PST by johnb2004
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